The Russians have gone in
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Could be a few tons of WWII PPSh-41 SMGs for all I know.
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Depends whose standard is the baseline, NATO or the former Eastern Bloc.
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The picture shows a Mosin Model 91/59. Is it yours or a media shot.
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smithman 10
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It was mine
A 91/59 that I bought for $100 private sale off an elderly gentleman. For the longest time I assumed it was a Model 38 until I finally took a look at it.
Sold it a long time ago for $200 I believe.
It really was a fascinating little rifle. Easy to tote, rough to shoot but I seem to remember at my best I could get 4-5" 100 yd. groups out of it.
A 91/59 that I bought for $100 private sale off an elderly gentleman. For the longest time I assumed it was a Model 38 until I finally took a look at it.
Sold it a long time ago for $200 I believe.
It really was a fascinating little rifle. Easy to tote, rough to shoot but I seem to remember at my best I could get 4-5" 100 yd. groups out of it.
I would not feel under gunned with a PPsh41 as long as I had lots of well functioning mags for it. Same with a Mosin, accurate @ 400m. Just hide well.
Ukrainian PM reveals horror of Russian invasion: There is no way to process what I h
Fox News story & video here
This is the Holos Party MP who was interviewed a few weeks ago, training with an AK74 (Post #347)
Apr. 04, 2022 - 6:28 - Kira Rudik, a Ukrainian parliament member, discusses the 'terrible deaths' she has witnessed during Russia's invasion of Ukraine
Fox News story & video here
This is the Holos Party MP who was interviewed a few weeks ago, training with an AK74 (Post #347)
Apr. 04, 2022 - 6:28 - Kira Rudik, a Ukrainian parliament member, discusses the 'terrible deaths' she has witnessed during Russia's invasion of Ukraine
"...One Ukrainian lawmaker said that Russian troops beheaded an elderly woman who was trying to flee the city of Bucha, where bodies have been found in mass graves.
Ukrainian parliament member Oleksiy Goncharenko said Russian troops beheaded an elderly woman who was trying to flee the city of Bucha, where bodies have been found in mass graves, describing the graphic scene in the Kyiv region as a "scene from a horror movie." ...
Ukrainian parliament member Oleksiy Goncharenko said Russian troops beheaded an elderly woman who was trying to flee the city of Bucha, where bodies have been found in mass graves, describing the graphic scene in the Kyiv region as a "scene from a horror movie." ...
Now we need a lot of shovels....
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The U.S. goal is limit this
war, i.e. not give any reason
for tactical chemical, nuclear
weapons on Russia's part.
But I'm afraid Russia will resort
to them if Putin doesn't see
a clear path to some sort of
victory and his military continue
to be at best mediocre.
Yet, I believe the U.S. and NATO
are getting drawn closer and closer
to upping the stakes with more
sophisticated weaponry for the
Ukrainian forces.
That may be manned aircraft. At the least
right now Ukraine needs missiles
that can effectively strike and
seriously damage or destroy
Russian warships in the Black Sea.
The siege at Mariupol must be
broken and weapons must be
supplied to stop the fall of Odessa.
war, i.e. not give any reason
for tactical chemical, nuclear
weapons on Russia's part.
But I'm afraid Russia will resort
to them if Putin doesn't see
a clear path to some sort of
victory and his military continue
to be at best mediocre.
Yet, I believe the U.S. and NATO
are getting drawn closer and closer
to upping the stakes with more
sophisticated weaponry for the
Ukrainian forces.
That may be manned aircraft. At the least
right now Ukraine needs missiles
that can effectively strike and
seriously damage or destroy
Russian warships in the Black Sea.
The siege at Mariupol must be
broken and weapons must be
supplied to stop the fall of Odessa.
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Perhaps another " pithy saying", Putin "just keeps on sharpening his shovel".
smithman 10
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Imagine being this man
A Ukrainian man has to choose between his family and his country - BBC News
Folks in Ukraine have some tough choices to make. This man came back from Holland to save his family and stayed to fight.
How can one not admire him?
A Ukrainian man has to choose between his family and his country - BBC News
Folks in Ukraine have some tough choices to make. This man came back from Holland to save his family and stayed to fight.
How can one not admire him?
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UncleEd
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And now according to CNN,
citing the Mariupol mayor
as its source, the Russians
are bringing in portable
crematoria to rid the city
of the civilian bodies. And
the city remains under siege.
citing the Mariupol mayor
as its source, the Russians
are bringing in portable
crematoria to rid the city
of the civilian bodies. And
the city remains under siege.
Stop the *****footing around already. Sanction here, sanction there….civilian bodies piling up by the day.
Hit them with every sanction right now. And while they're at that, stop buying Russian energy.
Hit them with every sanction right now. And while they're at that, stop buying Russian energy.
Another interview with Ukrainian MP, Kira Rudyk
Springtime in Kyiv — a Ukrainian MP discusses life in the besieged city With video.
Apr 05, 2022
Kira Rudyk speaks about the tragedy unfolding around her and how she and other Ukrainians are coping and fighting back
Springtime in Kyiv — a Ukrainian MP discusses life in the besieged city With video.
Apr 05, 2022
Kira Rudyk speaks about the tragedy unfolding around her and how she and other Ukrainians are coping and fighting back
...The blitzkrieg didn't happen but in the long term, Russians have more resources and can bring in more people … it's hard to sustain this tempo for another six months. Financial and emotional help won't last forever. Are the Russians winning? No. Are we? I'm not sure. It's a stalemate," she said.
..."And every single morning the mantra is 'nobody but you.' And if you start crying and if you start getting upset or get nervous, then who else will go to the refugee camp? Who will go out to parliament to vote for the necessary things? Who will go out to all the dogs and cats on the street who were left behind and who need to be fed? Who is going to drive the car to the refugee camp to help old people? And there is only one answer for every single question: It's your responsibility. Take as much as you can handle and just do it...."
..."And every single morning the mantra is 'nobody but you.' And if you start crying and if you start getting upset or get nervous, then who else will go to the refugee camp? Who will go out to parliament to vote for the necessary things? Who will go out to all the dogs and cats on the street who were left behind and who need to be fed? Who is going to drive the car to the refugee camp to help old people? And there is only one answer for every single question: It's your responsibility. Take as much as you can handle and just do it...."
Sure keeps evidence of torture and execution to a minimum. As a bonus, you can cook your own KIA and save paying the family for the battle death.
UncleEd
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Germany is the major holdout and
says it'll halve energy purchases
from Russia by mid summer. The
Germans fear for their economy.
Allied, meaning NATO, nations. will
find alternatives to Russian energy
sooner than you might believe. Do
not doubt plans are in the works.
I seem to remember that back during the Vietnam War that some humongous stashes of North Vietnamese guns and ammo were found. What happens to a big stash like that? Is there a big stash that the DOD or CIA keeps around to supply when they want to conceal the origin of weapons?
Just posted in The Guardian:
The Russian army has generally been a disaster and beaten back repeatedly. Unfortunately, some of their successful attacks have included the appalling mistreatment of civilains that we have been reading about. In other cases, people have just told them to ******* off. A mixture, it seems, of raw recruits and some psychopaths.
As Kira Rudyk said in the interview posted above, they are at a stalemate and it is unknown how long this can be maintained
Let us hope that increasing sanctions have the desired effect soon, but I'm not hopeful that this will be over without a lot of additional bloodshed and misery.
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Ukraine could 'absolutely' win the war against Russia, Pentagon says
The Pentagon has said Ukraine could "absolutely" win the war against Russia, even as US officials speak of the risk of a protracted conflict.
"Of course they can win this," Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told a news briefing.
"The proof is literally in the outcomes that you're seeing everyday ... absolutely they can win."
Of course, they can win this. And if you look at what they've been able to do just thus far, Mr. Putin has achieved exactly zero of his strategic objectives inside Ukraine. He didn't take Kyiv. He didn't topple the government. He didn't remove Ukraine as a nation state. And he's really only taken control of a small number of population centres.
And even they weren't the ones that he was really going after. So, you know, Mariupol is still not taken. He's moved his forces out of Kyiv. He's moved his forces out of Cherniniv. They haven't taken Kharkiv. They haven't taken Mykolayiv in the south.
So, I think the proof is literally in the outcomes that you're seeing every day.
The Ukrainians are bravely fighting for their country. And they have denied Mr. Putin so many of his strategic objectives. So absolutely, they can win."
This sounds a little too confident to me. If they can be enabled to cripple the Russian artillery and air power, this will go a long way to winning. But at the moment, Russia seems to be focussng on sheling cities into dust.Ukraine could 'absolutely' win the war against Russia, Pentagon says
The Pentagon has said Ukraine could "absolutely" win the war against Russia, even as US officials speak of the risk of a protracted conflict.
"Of course they can win this," Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told a news briefing.
"The proof is literally in the outcomes that you're seeing everyday ... absolutely they can win."
Of course, they can win this. And if you look at what they've been able to do just thus far, Mr. Putin has achieved exactly zero of his strategic objectives inside Ukraine. He didn't take Kyiv. He didn't topple the government. He didn't remove Ukraine as a nation state. And he's really only taken control of a small number of population centres.
And even they weren't the ones that he was really going after. So, you know, Mariupol is still not taken. He's moved his forces out of Kyiv. He's moved his forces out of Cherniniv. They haven't taken Kharkiv. They haven't taken Mykolayiv in the south.
So, I think the proof is literally in the outcomes that you're seeing every day.
The Ukrainians are bravely fighting for their country. And they have denied Mr. Putin so many of his strategic objectives. So absolutely, they can win."
The Russian army has generally been a disaster and beaten back repeatedly. Unfortunately, some of their successful attacks have included the appalling mistreatment of civilains that we have been reading about. In other cases, people have just told them to ******* off. A mixture, it seems, of raw recruits and some psychopaths.
As Kira Rudyk said in the interview posted above, they are at a stalemate and it is unknown how long this can be maintained
Let us hope that increasing sanctions have the desired effect soon, but I'm not hopeful that this will be over without a lot of additional bloodshed and misery.
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