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Cabelas find - Vietnam era US marked 10-5 round butt UPDATED with letter info
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I see you collect old TMs too Lee. That's a nice one to have.
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Naval. Your navel is something you contemplate.
Lee,
Have that same manual dated August, 1985. The number is the same, but ends with "-14&P-1". It covers the 4" S&W and the 4" Ruger. My understanding is that the US purchased almost 100,000 of the "type" during Vietnam. Don't know what percentage were Smiths and what were Rutgers.
Have that same manual dated August, 1985. The number is the same, but ends with "-14&P-1". It covers the 4" S&W and the 4" Ruger. My understanding is that the US purchased almost 100,000 of the "type" during Vietnam. Don't know what percentage were Smiths and what were Rutgers.
Opps. Correction made. I must have been thinking of an old Bill Cosby joke.
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sigp220.45
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I got the letter back already - fast work by Don at the SWHF!
No surprises, but its nice to confirm it is what it is. February of 1968 was a hopping time to be a Smith headed to Vietnam.
DCASR is the Defense Contract Administration Services Region.
No surprises, but its nice to confirm it is what it is. February of 1968 was a hopping time to be a Smith headed to Vietnam.
DCASR is the Defense Contract Administration Services Region.
Now if we only knew which unit it ended up in and how it came to be in a Cabela's. It would fit nicely with my later day war bring backs.
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I was thinking about doing a FOIA request, but I think it would be a waste of time. I did one for my CMP 1911A1 and the paper trail started in 1995 (by then the old boy was assigned to the Pennsylvania Army National Guard). I suppose this one would be a blank slate.
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A FOIA request! I would never have thought about that. I think you are right about the 10-5. Probably too many hand written inventories going way back. I knew a Colonel who was heavily involved in inventorying all the Army stuff coming back from Desert Storm. What a mess.
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I would have grabbed that even without the Vietnam provenance. Sometimes the lonely looking revolver becomes the jewel in the collection. Enjoy that beauty! If only it could talk. Most likely carried by a pilot crew member of an aircraft. I'd really like to have something like it.
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I disagree. The CMP 1911 stayed in government service for a over 60 years. Lots of movement. Your revolver was made in 1968 and shipped directly to the Army. It likely came home with a GI shipping out, so I can't imagine more than a couple of years in service. I know I'd give it a shot if I had it.
I always like it when someone uses old fashioned terminology! So I guess I'll add NICE GAT!!!
When I was a TPC instructor at FTU, I taught what I strongly suspect was the last revolver class ever taught there, to a non-agent from another unit at Quantico who was being given USMS creds, using one of the NIS/ONI guns. As soon as he passed, they decided he should have a P228 instead, so it began again....
I, too, used one of the RB 19s for the instr. bullseye qual ; did you do the 1 hand/240 version or the two-hand/270 (or was it 260, I forget now..). Old age is a terrible thing.
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The information on the FOIA request regarding the CMP 45's only go back to the late 70's, when they first started implementing computerized inventory records.
Doubtful you would ever find out to what unit it was issued to initially.
Also bear in mind this was the standard issue handgun for Army aviators world wide, so it could of just as easily been in fort Campbell it's entire service life.
Defense Contract Agency also handled procurement for NASA during that time frame.
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