427 is gone

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I decided to update everyone on my long in the tooth Torino project. The car project that’s basically on life support at this point. I let my 427 FE go to someone that can actually afford to build it. I didn’t know it at the time. But selling my FE C6 transmission when I was on FLMA was the death of my build.
I also learned during FLMA that I made some fatal mistakes while choosing some parts for my build. I couldn’t reverse course and buy different parts. I tried selling some of my parts to try to salvage my project. But some of the parts were so nitch that nobody would buy them from me. Like my 3x2 intake. I had some lingering issues that I needed to address elsewhere. So I decided to let the 427 go. It’s bittersweet because the money I made from selling it helped out a lot. I got new tires, oil change and other things I needed for my daily driver. Also caught up on my finances. But I worked so hard for that engine.
But I also kinda grew out of it. I’m getting older. The idea of building a engine out of rare and exotic parts for a small block torino doesn’t sound appealing anymore. Or building a goofy gas guzzling engine for something that I plan to drive sounds stupid.
No matter how much money I spend on that 427 or 460. My Torino will always be a small block car. Running a historical engine sounds interesting. But not in a C code Torino. Maybe in a cobra jet car that holds value. But not my car. Interesting enough it was a man with a R code galaxy that bought my engine. So my engine found a forever home. It was a combo of poor selection of parts, FE transmissions are rarer than I expected. So replacing my transmissions I sold last year to pay my phone bills is nearly impossible. Family disputes. Selling my 427 gives me one less thing to worry about. Crashing my truck and missing work last summer put a lot of things on hold. And put me in several bad situations. And I grew out of it. I was originally going to find a 1968 casting 289 small block for my Torino and return my car to factory condition. With upgrades. But a 1968 289 casting is actually harder to find than one would expect. It’s not worth it either. So I’m chose to buy a roller Efi 302. I’m going to find one and have it redone with basic upgrades and use it. I can get good performance with a lot of benefits. I have a friend that is a mechanic that will let me store everything in his shop.
 
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I was thinking a 351C 2v motor with a fuellie intake and well redone heads. It kills me I missed out on my ex GF's families loaded 72 Montego 351C 2v one owner car (her uncles) buckets and floor shifter. really odd build. all the GT parts but not a GT.
 
Here is a Mustang I used to have with the 351 Cleveland. That engine responds well to modification...those heads can really breathe. So that might be an option over the FE block. But a 302 will be a lot cheaper.
 

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Now that I am older, I actually prefer small blocks. They handle so much better than the nose heavy big blocks. I think you will be as happy with the small block in the Torino if you actually plan to drive it much.

for driving, not drag racing, a torky small block is way more fun. My little GS350 has a 450 pound motor in the nose, now close to 400 with aluminum intake and headders. Handles extremely well.
 
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Re: OP. Have not got a clue what you are talking about. However, have firsthand experience with the bittersweet taste of dreams that didn't work out. Expect that others on this forum have some familiarity of what you are dealing with. May God grant you His grace. Sincerely. bruce.
 
Re: OP. Have not got a clue what you are talking about. However, have firsthand experience with the bittersweet taste of dreams that didn't work out. Expect that others on this forum have some familiarity of what you are dealing with. May God grant you His grace. Sincerely. bruce.

I spent most of my 20s hunting for a Ford 427 big block for my project car. I sacrificed a lot of personal goals to build it with laser focus. The past few years has been one lost after another. Finally I was forced to either sacrifice my 1968 Torino or sacrifice my 427 FE. My Torino still has value without a engine and is the last thing I legally own other than my guns. The 427 is useless without a car to put it in. So I let the 427 go. I also rediscovered other passions I’m getting back into. And I have a car that needed new tires and other stuff I needed the money for. With the fact I’m getting older the 427 wasn’t as cool to have as it used to be. That’s was what I was trying to say.

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I found a 351 Cleveland that looks crusty on the outside but clean in the inside. The guy is a friend of a friend so I’m going for it. The 427 was my first choice for my car while the 351C was a close second so I might come out of this ahead.
 
Woohoo! Take a close look at modern aluminum intake designs if you go carb, over a vintage intake. Some of the latest designs are huge improvements. When Edelbrock brought back the classic Buick B4B, they made some subtle changes that make a big difference. I'd see if there is a Performer RPM version for the Cleveland, or something like that, that breathes well at higher rpms, like the Cleveland can with massaged 2v heads and the right cam.
 
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Woohoo! Take a close look at modern alimunum intake designs if you go carb, over a vintage intake. Some of the latest designs are huge improvements. When Edelbrock brought back the classic Buick B4B, they made some subtle changes that make a big difference. I'd see if there is a Performer RPM version for the Cleveland, or something like that, that breathes well at higher rpms, like the Cleveland can with massaged 2v heads and the right cam.

This is my last ditch effort to build my car. I’m not doing anything exotic. It’s just going to be a good rebuild with a single 4 barrel carburetor setup. Nothing insane. I’m crossing my fingers that the seller is willing to sell me his top loader too. I’m parting out my C30. I’m going to use the money to fund the rebuild.

Edit: considering that I made a full circle back to a small block. I should have never sold my 302 that was in my car when I bought it. At the time I didn’t care because it wasn’t original to my car. It was a flimsy early 80s casting. To thin to stroke it safely. But wasn’t a roller. So I couldn’t get similar performance as if it was a stroker. Wasn’t a GT40 engine either. Just a Napa engine. So I didn’t think it was that much of a loss.
 
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Sorry to hear this but looks like you are reformulation another plan. My 289 saga continues. We are still fighting the overheating issue. About 18 months ago we put a 302 in the Mustang and sent the 289 up to NE Iowa to have it xrayed and clean out the gunk they found in the block. Late last year we put the 289 back in and the overheating issue is not as bad but the outside air temps are still in the 70s and 80s. This summer will tell the story.


The 289 we found in the middle of Nebraska. It was built in 1965 and now has 271HP and we put a Holly 4 barrel on it (removed the fuel injector). So far this year it has been running good.





 
I understand everything you have said... finally got my 67 Mustang Fastback back on the road after parking it in 2002.. small blocks are great.. good luck with the build.. it will feel great to see it move under its own power again...
 

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For a street car, I would pick a roller cam 302 or 351 Windsor over a Cleveland 7 days a week and twice on Sunday...

Yeah, but you don’t question it when God hand delivers you a standard bore engine. I’m going to take it and run. Especially since I’m at my wits end on this project.


Any idea why that 289 keeps overheating? I learned the hard way not to use sealant on the water pump on my 302.
 
Yeah, but you don’t question it when God hand delivers you a standard bore engine. I’m going to take it and run. Especially since I’m at my wits end on this project.


Any idea why that 289 keeps overheating? I learned the hard way not to use sealant on the water pump on my 302.


We think the company that bored out the 289 back in 2014 packed the block with some substance and didn't get it all cleaned out. Hopefully that has now been rectified. We have put a GM distributor on it, installed a heavy duty water pump, bought a new radiator that takes water in the top right of the radiator and expels it out the bottom left (to force the water through the cores). It also has an electric fan. But even the 302 we put in last year ran hot as well. It now has 190 degree thermostat and is running between 190 and 204. But I haven't driven it in 90+ degrees, 90%+ humidity with the a/c running yet.





 
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