I do not like them as much as I like the M1 Garand, but they are seriously nice carbines. I picked up a late Inland from one of the last batches the CMP got in from Italy. I mean, everyone should have a least one Garand, Carbine, 1903 and 1903A3.
M1 Carbine Fans?
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NFrameFred
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I guess I take for granted most folks on here are aware of a lot of the history and information found in the books I grew up reading, written first hand accounts and biographies of combat vets . Many of these great soldiers went on to storied careers and success but many also served admirably in the NRA in high profile positions.
Anyone who admires the .30 carbine that hasn't read John George's "Shots Fired In Anger" has short changed themselves. I take it as common knowledge that the carbine was not a substitute or stand-in for a full power battle rifle but as a lightweight compact expedient for the 1911 for officers and non-coms who ordinarily were not issued long guns. Also, support troops, such as mess or supply personnel, truck drivers, etc. that may have had to suddenly enter the fray if things went sideways had a weapon that was easy to carry and manage while going about their normal duties. The ballistics of the .30 M1C matches closely at 100 yards around the same as at the muzzle of a .357 magnum with the 110 grain slug and increased the practical accuracy and distance to a much greater degree as opposed to someone with the 1911.
John George used the 30 carbine to deadly effect fighting the Japanese when he wasn't sniping with his 30-06' bolt gun and offered it easily penetrated Japanese helmets at range.
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Glenn R. McMannly
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The advent of paratroopers spurred this as well. At a moment, rear echelon could find themselves under attack from the air. The pistol wasn’t ideal.
I’m a big fan
When I was in high school I bought my first one off my boss at the gas station he owned in 1969 . A minty Quality Hardware that he purchased thru the nra/dcm .
i loaded tens of thousands of Speer 100gr Plinkers that killed whitetails , muleys , badgers and scads of prairie dogs and other varmints .
My Old Man used his to great effect as a combat Marine in Korea 1951-1953 as did my father in law .
IMHO it is a great little rifle to break kids in on after they have learned the fundamentals with a single shot or bolt gun .22 .
I still have that first Quality Hdw and also a flat bolt Inland .
I’ll pass them on to a couple of deserving grand kids .
When I was in high school I bought my first one off my boss at the gas station he owned in 1969 . A minty Quality Hardware that he purchased thru the nra/dcm .
i loaded tens of thousands of Speer 100gr Plinkers that killed whitetails , muleys , badgers and scads of prairie dogs and other varmints .
My Old Man used his to great effect as a combat Marine in Korea 1951-1953 as did my father in law .
IMHO it is a great little rifle to break kids in on after they have learned the fundamentals with a single shot or bolt gun .22 .
I still have that first Quality Hdw and also a flat bolt Inland .
I’ll pass them on to a couple of deserving grand kids .
Glenn R. McMannly
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I still have five cases of Korean surplus ball. Bought them a few years ago for $0.25 per shot:
Same ammo goes for $1 per now. .30 carbine ammo has gotten very expensive in the past year or two.
With battle rattle:
Love this gun but at the price of the ammo, I’d rather shoot my Garand to be honest:
Same ammo goes for $1 per now. .30 carbine ammo has gotten very expensive in the past year or two.
With battle rattle:
Love this gun but at the price of the ammo, I’d rather shoot my Garand to be honest:
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Faulkner
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Although there are much better hunting rounds than a .30 carbine and I certainly don't recommend hunting medium game with one, I have been successful taking coyotes, feral hogs, and a few whitetail deer with mine, albeit they were all under 100 yards. I've never had to shoot one twice and never had one get away.
As Venom6 noted above, the trick is to use quality expanding bullets. Remington produces .30 carbine ammo with a good jacketed soft point and Hornaday's Critical Defense round in .30 carbine has a good reputation. My favorite due to good experience, though, is the Winchester jacketed soft hollow point. It is a very effective round and what I would use for a home defense round in the M1 carbine.
As Venom6 noted above, the trick is to use quality expanding bullets. Remington produces .30 carbine ammo with a good jacketed soft point and Hornaday's Critical Defense round in .30 carbine has a good reputation. My favorite due to good experience, though, is the Winchester jacketed soft hollow point. It is a very effective round and what I would use for a home defense round in the M1 carbine.
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Big fan here.
smoothshooter
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Although there are much better hunting rounds than a .30 carbine and I certainly don't recommend hunting medium game with one, I have been successful taking coyotes, feral hogs, and a few whitetail deer with mine, albeit they were all under 100 yards. I've never had to shoot one twice and never had one get away.
As Venom6 noted above, the trick is to use quality expanding bullets. Remington produces .30 carbine ammo with a good jacketed soft point and Hornaday's Critical Defense round in .30 carbine has a good reputation. My favorite due to good experience, though, is the Winchester jacketed soft hollow point. It is a very effective round and what I would use for a home defense round in the M1 carbine.
Famed NYPD Stakeout Team veteran Jim Cirrillo stated that the .30 Carbine loaded with jacketed soft points put down bank robbers and hostage takers faster than anything he ever used except 12 gauge slugs. They also pretty much used anything they wanted to with few if any restrictions.
And he shot and saw shot a lot of bad guys.
Ironically, after surviving all those shootouts, and writing a couple of good books about them, he was killed in a night-time car wreck a few years after he retired.
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Smart move!
I grabbed a dozen or so of those 1080 round cans of Korean Surplus when you could get it for around three bills a can. I am good for a while.
I still have five cases of Korean surplus ball. Bought them a few years ago for $0.25 per shot:
Same ammo goes for $1 per now. .30 carbine ammo has gotten very expensive in the past year or two.
With battle rattle:
Love this gun but at the price of the ammo, I’d rather shoot my Garand to be honest:
I grabbed a dozen or so of those 1080 round cans of Korean Surplus when you could get it for around three bills a can. I am good for a while.
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Glenn R. McMannly
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These 5 cases will last my lifetime. I enjoy the M1 rifle more.
shovelhead
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My dad carried one in WWII, always spoke fondly of it. I’ve wanted to get one but either can’t afford those I’ve come across or I just miss a good deal on one lol.
This pic is from 1944-France, my dad is on the left, the other guy was his cousin that he bumped into purely by chance.
My dad and one of his younger brothers did the same thing post V-E Day. The best part of that was my dad was Army while his brother was Navy.
NOPE. What we liked. We bought long time ago............For many this ain't our first rodeo. 15 years ago you could go to the CMP in Anniston Alabama and buy all the Garands/Carbines/ Springfield 03's etc you afford and tote out of the building.
Over 6 million Carbines were produced by about 7 mfg'ers.......Lots were loaned to foreign countries. Lots, not all were returned and given to the CMP........Lots went through Capt Krunch too.
I do not like them as much as I like the M1 Garand, but they are seriously nice carbines. I picked up a late Inland from one of the last batches the CMP got in from Italy. I mean, everyone should have a least one Garand, Carbine, 1903 and 1903A3.
AND........A 1911 in 45acp.
Audy Murphy used a Carbine nick named "Ol Lucky".
I have access to shoot an ORIGINAL Inland folding paratrooper carbine........Lots of FAKES out there.
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Sistema1927
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Mine is a Quality Hardware, and it lives up to it's name.
The neatest M1 Carbine that I ever saw belonged to a friend of my Dad's. He had been a co-pilot on either a B17 or B24, and was shot down over France and crash landed. He had brought a carbine aboard for just such a situation. A German patrol came upon them, and even though he was shot in the hand, he and his crew were able to fight off this patrol and escape after killing several of them. French partisans soon got them back across enemy lines, and even though they wanted to take his carbine while he was treated for his wound at an aid station he refused. He held onto that carbine and got it home after the war. He also had the glove he was wearing when shot, and displayed it along with his Purple Heart.
The neatest M1 Carbine that I ever saw belonged to a friend of my Dad's. He had been a co-pilot on either a B17 or B24, and was shot down over France and crash landed. He had brought a carbine aboard for just such a situation. A German patrol came upon them, and even though he was shot in the hand, he and his crew were able to fight off this patrol and escape after killing several of them. French partisans soon got them back across enemy lines, and even though they wanted to take his carbine while he was treated for his wound at an aid station he refused. He held onto that carbine and got it home after the war. He also had the glove he was wearing when shot, and displayed it along with his Purple Heart.
DWalt
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Carbines were popular battlefield pickups among Wehrmacht soldiers.
Aggie1906
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I got to know a local Saginaw GM engineer, Bob M., who made the carbine his specialty hobby. His career was at "The Gun Plant" as it was known there.
He put together a "birth month" Saginaw for me, as built, with mostly correct bits and the expensive two settling for repro. Not so collectible, but satisfying to me. "War Baby" is the book, or books, to have.
He put together a "birth month" Saginaw for me, as built, with mostly correct bits and the expensive two settling for repro. Not so collectible, but satisfying to me. "War Baby" is the book, or books, to have.
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