Early production Winchester M1 carbine

The OP stated it is an early Winchester. From S/N 1,000,000 to S/N 1,030,000 the barrels were dated. After S/N 1,030,000 they were undated. So if it is an early Winchester Carbine it should be dated.

My apologies, I thought you were referring to SF VET's post about his Inland.
 
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the only carbine I have, I bought at collector's show in the early Obama years. "44 inland, push button safety (and it is indeed easy to drop the mag when pushing the safety), no bayonet lug, rear adjustable sight, round bolt, and I have never bothered to research the other re-build parts on my rifle. From what the seller told me, I think mine was an early DCM "transitional" rile, likely bought by a vet, whose son sold it to the collector when the vet passed. I think it had a new barrel installed, because when I got it and ran a patch thru the barrel, it came out without a spec of fouling. I doubt it was ever shot by the person who acquired it first from the DCM. Paid $600 for it then.

It is an easy cartridge to reload and just a fun rifle to shoot. I have an assortment of new and original mags for it.

SF VET
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mine per above has a barrel marked/dated Underwood 1944. SF VET


Yours by your first posting was a Inland made in 44. Inland did not use Underwood barrels as Inland made their own. PM the S/N to me and I will try to date the receiver for you.
 
The adjustable sights must have been virtually valueless in the early 60s, because as a kid in that era, I had a toy Springfield '03 that was built with one. It had a metal plate added so that it could attach to the rifle with one wood screw.
That toy rifle also had a GI canvas sling.
 
Are you implying that it was a shallow/inconsistent stamp from the gitgo?

To jump in on the dialog between you and handejector, I would inject that I've seen Winchester stocks that were light stamped, and some that were heavy stamped. Inland had a tendency to heavy stamp their stocks, IBM's were generally light stamped. One thing that was consistent is that they were not consistent.

It's pretty easy to tell, by feel, if a USGI stock has been sanded and I don't think this one has. I think this Winchester stock was just not heavy stamped.

Just for grins I popped a few others out of the safe for some pictures . . . .

From one of my Inland stocks;
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An arsenal rebuild stamp on a Quality Hardware;
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An original acceptance stamp on another Quality Hardware;
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Here's one on a carbine stock that was filthy that I cleaned up. It was so dark with an untold number of applications of oil that I didn't even know the stamp was there until I stripped it back down to the bare black walnut. It was a very light stamp that fortunately became visible again with the first hand rubbed application of BLO. I guess you don't ever definitely know if these 70+ year old stocks have been sanded or not, but I've handled plenty of USGI stocks that have been sanded and can typically feel the difference.
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I have handled over a thousand carbines while I was collecting. I never remember a stock being blonde in color. That said I never held a factory fresh stock. This stock may or maynot have been sanded or it may have been stripped with a commercial stripper.

I have seen light strikes, heavy strikes, mistruck and partially stuck cartouches. Heck even double struck ones. Have seen them sanded out and not fully sanded. Not to mention fakes cartouches.........you can buy a whole set of them. I have an overlay with which to check cartouches.
 
Are you implying that it was a shallow/inconsistent stamp from the gitgo?

I have seen light strikes, heavy strikes, mistruck and partially stuck cartouches. Heck even double struck ones. Have seen them sanded out and not fully sanded. Not to mention fakes cartouches.........you can buy a whole set of them. I have an overlay with which to check cartouches.

Cartouches were hand stamped. Some very clear and some so lackadaisy struck it seems a crime.
 
Cartouches were hand stamped. Some very clear and some so lackadaisy struck it seems a crime.


Huh! Live and learn. I thought the US made stuff was a bit more consistent. For truly lackadaisical markings, the electro-pencilled serials on the WWII Enfield No4s take the prize for me.
 
Huh! Live and learn. I thought the US made stuff was a bit more consistent. For truly lackadaisical markings, the electro-pencilled serials on the WWII Enfield No4s take the prize for me.

For me it is the U S electro penciled on the Winchester 52's that CMP sold.
 
receiver serial #

OK thanks, the receiver of my '44 Inland is. 6342306, and the Underwood Barrel is faintly dated 8-44. SF VET
 
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thanks AJ, I just replied with a PM to you, hope you got it. SF VET
 
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