AJ
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A metal hand guard is not correct for a U.S.GI M1 Carbine. It is a knock off made by a commercial company post war. $1900.00? No way Jose! Stay away. Maybe in the stupid price era we are in maybe $700. To me maybe $19.95.
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A metal hand guard is not correct for a U.S.GI M1 Carbine. It is a knock off made by a commercial company post war. $1900.00? No way Jose! Stay away. Maybe in the stupid price era we are in maybe $700. To me maybe $19.95.
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AJ
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When I first got into M1 Carbine collecting, I could buy them off of individuals at the gun shows for about $350-$400. That was better than the dealers were offering them. I bought two original M1A1's for $1400 about 10 years ago and thought that was high then, but it was commensurate with what they were going for at the time (look at the price of a M1A1 nowadays!). The cheapest I have seen a U.S. GI M1 Carbine go for in the last year is $1500.
I had one of every manufacturer and eventually my interests changed. Made a nice profit on the ones I had. I only have an U.S.GI M1 made by Inland now, my Uncle bought it for $20.00 about 1965.
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More details would help. The perforated handguard fits an original military carbine but it will most likely be a Plainfield or other commercial replica. Some of these are good but not $1900 good…
AJ
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I was a member of the Carbine Club when those came out. We were allowed to buy three for $350 a piece (still have the invoice some place).
DWalt
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My first Carbine was an Inland, bought from an ex-GI, liberated from the Army. That was in the late 1950s, for $40, including around 20 magazines, several thousand rounds of ammo, and quite a few spare parts. I still have it. Around 20 years ago, a friend bought a SSG Carbine in original WWII condition at an estate sale for $100. I offered him $1000 at the time and he wouldn't sell it.
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I killed my first deer with a 30 carbine. Was using 110 grain Winchester hollow point ammo. One SMALL mule deer doe at 50 yards away. One broadside heart shot which stopped the bullet. Even though I was 12 years old, I was not impressed with the lack of killing power. The deer wasn't overly impressed either.
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Mine is an Underwood!
I really enjoyed Chris Baker's series on the 30 Carbine. Here is a link:
https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/category/m1-carbine/
I have an Aimpoint Red dot on mine.
I prefer Georgia Arms soft point ammo which sadly has not been available a long time. The PPU USA SP ammo is also very good.
There are 50 round boxes of Remington SP ammo at Sportsman's Warehouse in Greensboro. Excellent ammo costs nearly $100 a box, advertised at $1.96 per round.
Mine is an Underwood!
I really enjoyed Chris Baker's series on the 30 Carbine. Here is a link:
https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/category/m1-carbine/
I have an Aimpoint Red dot on mine.
I prefer Georgia Arms soft point ammo which sadly has not been available a long time. The PPU USA SP ammo is also very good.
There are 50 round boxes of Remington SP ammo at Sportsman's Warehouse in Greensboro. Excellent ammo costs nearly $100 a box, advertised at $1.96 per round.
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AJ
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There are several books on the M1 Carbine. The best of which is War Baby by Larry Ruth for the collector https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Bo...MI6JrL1s_JgwMVjZtaBR2M-AYxEAQYASABEgJtn_D_BwE and US M1 Carbines by Craig Reisch for the novice collector [ame]https://www.amazon.com/U-S-Carbines-Wartime-Production-8th/dp/1882391543[/ame] I would get the Reisch book and study it before I bought anything. I still say stay away from the metel hand guarded Carine for $1900.00.
DWalt
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The main problem with reloading the .30 Carbine is that the cases must be trimmed frequently. I usually FL resize all fired cases first, then measure every case to determine which ones need trimming. I also have a Ruger Blackhawk in .30 Carbine, and even with it, the cases tend to grow. Some years ago, I got a super deal on pulled GI .30 Carbine bullets. I bought 5000 for a few cents each, still have several thousand of them. Have used them to load other .30 cartridges such as .30-30, .30 Remington, .303 Savage, .300 Savage, and .308.
AJ
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An Aimpoint on a M1 Carbine? Got a picture?
Ivan the Butcher
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I end up in discussions on Pistol Caliber Carbines often. My recommendation is always a M-1 Carbine! I still have a Marlin Camp 45 (set up the same as my M-1) and several Lever Action PCC's but I believe the 9mms and other PCCs are too anemic for serious defense.
I have two. A rebuilt 1944 IBM and a major overhauled 1943 IBM that was modified for the T-3 night scope.
My wife's upper body strength isn't sufficient for Mini-14's or AR-15's, but she does just fine with the M-1. It normal carbine sits in the gun safe with a 15 round mag loaded with Winchester SP ammo in the well, and 2 mags of the same in a pouch on the buttstock. If 45 round can't get us out of whatever mess we are in; I don't think anything could have! (at least without being belt fed)
Ivan
I have two. A rebuilt 1944 IBM and a major overhauled 1943 IBM that was modified for the T-3 night scope.
My wife's upper body strength isn't sufficient for Mini-14's or AR-15's, but she does just fine with the M-1. It normal carbine sits in the gun safe with a 15 round mag loaded with Winchester SP ammo in the well, and 2 mags of the same in a pouch on the buttstock. If 45 round can't get us out of whatever mess we are in; I don't think anything could have! (at least without being belt fed)
Ivan
max503
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I remember when all people did was curse those things. Now I wish I hadn't believed them.
DWalt
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Even though I have fired a huge number of different ARs over the years, I have never personally owned, or even wanted, one. I prefer an M1 Carbine. I have told this story before, but I once worked with a retired Marine Colonel who saw a lot of action in both the Pacific War and Korea. He normally carried a Carbine and once told me that of all the enemy he shot with his Carbine, not a one of them ever got up.
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I have two carbines. One is in the original 30 carbine configuration and the other is rebarreled to 5.7 Johnson. The 5.7 Johnson is a dang fine round for everything you might use a .223 for, within range. Pricey is the only other thing I can say for the cost of 5.7 ammo.
The original owner had it rebarreled to carry in his truck for shooting coyotes. The only time I've seen a coyote in the wild, the carbine was at home and I was 200 miles away
Llance.
The original owner had it rebarreled to carry in his truck for shooting coyotes. The only time I've seen a coyote in the wild, the carbine was at home and I was 200 miles away
Llance.
Here is Paul Harrell's take on the effectiveness of the 30 carbine.
M-1 Carbine Review: Power/Accuracy/Relevence - YouTube
Paul can be an acquired taste but he is thorough.
M-1 Carbine Review: Power/Accuracy/Relevence - YouTube
Paul can be an acquired taste but he is thorough.
WW2 Germany is often credited for fielding the first, true "Assault Rifle", the MP-44. I think an M-2 Carbine, which was introduced around the same time, would have comparable ballistics. I guess the million-dollar question is the .30 Carbine round a pistol or intermediate cartridge ? Perhaps the US can lay claim to the first Assault Rifle ?
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I own a Quality Hardware with an Inland barrel, #155XXX, all early features. No reason to think it went through a rebuild. Thing is, it is entirely blued. The bluing matches the bolt and various blued 15 rd mags. Were the early ones blued ?
RobertJ.
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I don't own one now, but have had two Universal copies in the distant past.
It was through reloading the little carbine that I came to discover H-110, started using it in my .44 Magnum revolvers, and have used it (for heavy loads) ever since.
It was through reloading the little carbine that I came to discover H-110, started using it in my .44 Magnum revolvers, and have used it (for heavy loads) ever since.
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