Backup heat. Not just for preppers any more

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My gf in Bellingam WA (coastal, just below the Can-US border) just got these emails from her hydro and gas suppliers. It's been unseasonably cold there recently (down to 6ºF at night) and in the teens during the day, although things are beginning to thaw out now, with temps predicted to hit the 40s towards the end of next week. I thought that area was pretty well supplied. We in BC haven;t had any warning, although Alberta recently had similar notices go out as they have been hit with really cold weather.

Puget Sound Energy is asking customers to conserve natural gas and electricity use through the evening hours. Due to the extreme cold temperatures facing our area, regional utilities are experiencing higher energy use than forecasted, and we need to reduce strain on the grid.

This evening, we’re asking customers to set their thermostats at a lower setting and limit the use of hot water, such as dishwashing or clothes washing, dryers and other appliances. For more ways to reduce your usage, visit our energy-saving tips page on pse.com.

We appreciate your assistance in supporting our communities throughout the region.

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Cascade Natural Gas Corporation
Extreme Weather Event

Due to extreme cold temperatures in Western Washington and complications from a regional natural gas storage facility, Cascade Natural Gas is asking customers to reduce natural gas usage from Saturday evening, January 13th at 9 PM PST, until noon on Tuesday, January 16th. These issues may put stress on natural gas flow, which could affect service. You can help by lowering your thermostat as much as you can comfortably manage, minimizing hot water usage and turning off natural gas fireplaces, garage heaters and any other non-essential appliances that use natural gas. With your cooperation, Cascade Natural Gas expects it can maintain service in the area.

If you experience a natural gas outage, please call CNGC customer service at 888-522-1130. We will notify you if circumstances change. Thank you for your cooperation.

She's been OK, but it does make you realize that backup heat is pretty important if you have it, esp. with building codes there and in other areas now requiring that all new construction be non-fossil fuel, ie heat pumps. Most still don't work all that efficiently at single-digit temps and require a fair bit of AC to run. So if both electricity and gas use are under caution, yer pooched!

Despite no warnings here I've been running my pellet stove quite a bit recently to reduce my gas usage (boiler + HW baseboards) as we, too have been pretty cold, with night-time temps to 0ºF and highs only around 12º. I won't save any $$ as but I discovered recently that the Federal "carbon tax" on my Dec. gas bill was about 21% of the total :(
 
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Trees are not fossils. So, there should be no problem burning tees for heat!
I heated with wood for about 34 years. In 2005 I fired up the fuel oil furnace, and it caught the house on fire. Never used the furnace again after the repair crews were all gone!

Ivan
 
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Here's what I depend on. Electric baseboard is for backup :rolleyes: Even though I am "remote" :cool: we seldom lose power for more than a few minutes, or once every couple of years eight hours maximum. Lines are all underground.

I use about 8 cords of pine and spruce each year. At 70, this is half a summer's endeavor, but I'm still good. I did the stonework on the fireplace about 40 years ago. There are 30+ tons on the house, all gathered by my parents and me. I love this place!

For what it's worth, we've gotten 16" snow in the last two days with more on the way. Thankfully, temps are moderate compared to what much of the country is receiving.
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Here's what I depend on. Electric baseboard is for backup ...I love this place!
Makes me warm just looking at that :) I almost replaced my pellet stove a few years ago when I had some big trees taken down. Split it up and stacked it. But the wood stove was going to cost quite a lot - much of which was the 2-storey double-wall SS pipe required for venting - plus wondering if I would have the energy to cut and buck up wood when I got older. So I stuck with the pellet stove. But there's no question that a wood stove is wonderful.

A neighbour up the street put in a wood stove and has tons of wood stacked and ready. He has found a nearly labour-free source of wood. A forest products company has a facility a few miles away where they make telephone poles, and a huge yard of stripped but un-treated poles. He found that they cut about 4' off the poles before sending them off, which just becomes wood waste. He's welcome to come by and fill his pickup truck with the cut-offs. He bought a log splitter so all he has to do is split and stack them:)
 
I learned long ago not to depend on electricity or even natural gas. Too many things to go wrong...power outages, city closing power off to one portion of the community while they work on power lines, etc.

I don't consider myself a prepper, but I try to be prepared when things don't go exactly as I would like. As a result, I have a wood stove.

I have about eight cords of wood in the wood shed...ash, apple, cherry, and oak mostly. Inasmuch as it's mostly hardwood, I only go through about three cords per winter.

I notice there are some folks that are adamant against burning wood, saying that it pollutes the air. My stove has the highest EPA rating. It kicks out less particulates in eight hours than my truck does just starting up. Still, there are folks who want them banned. Go figger.:confused:

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Mule Packer - I envy you your hardwood- what a luxury! I know envy is outlined in the Book, but that is not my first sin, and I'm still standing. My stove is older and less efficient, but that is what we've got. I have a second stove in the garage/shop. New stoves with all the required bells are out of sight. Unfortunately, hardwood is unobtanium here without buying it 100 miles out. I've got a million acres of softwood right out the door, so that is what I burn.

There is a local logging project nearby that I have permission to access the non-commercial wood. It's cut into logs, limbed, and stacked. I plan to be the first on site in the spring for about 20 trailer loads. :)
 
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We have two pellet stoves in the house. They supply all the heat we need. There is no natural gas in our area, electricity is high and propane can be higher. Felling, cutting, splitting, stacking, hauling, stacking, burning, no longer is fun. Besides, I am still running our company so time is the most valuable commodity.

As much as we enjoy the wood fire, the pellets are a much easier heat source.

Kevin
 
Used to be able to go to the sawmill and load up on "mill ends". Basically, an inch or 2 of 2X4 or 2X6 that they trim off of them. They had a huge pile and snow shovels and you could take whatever you needed. We would load the truck and trailer full, and burn them in the potbellied stove at home. Feeding the fire was the best part. Just open the top and dump a bunch inside. It beat cutting and splitting juniper for the main stove if you didn't need to warm up the whole house.
 
35 years ago heated with wood. Had a large Fisher double door stove that heated our 2 story house, but hard to stay in the living room with stove burning. Only burned hard wood. Pine and similar wood create chimney/ stove pipe problems and even fires.
 
...As much as we enjoy the wood fire, the pellets are a much easier heat source.

Kevin
Agreed. I just don't like paying $8.00 (~$6.10 USD) a bag for 'em! But they are convenient.

BTW I don't even use the ignitor any more; i use a propane torch. The last time I had to replace an ignitor, the dealer wanted some insane price for them (about $150 as I recall). I found that they're really just "cartridge heaters", used in the thousands in industry where heat but no flame is needed, such as plastics extrusion. I found mine (for an Enviro EF5) were made by Chromalox, so I contacted them with the specs and they put me in touch with a local distributor (Heatcon in Seattle, as I recall) who ordered a couple of them. I think they cost me about $65 each, inlcuding $12 shipping by FedEx. (Could have been sent USPS for about $5.00 I think.)

Eventually I just disconnected the ignitor (but left it in place to keep the same air flow around it) and use a propane torch, which is much quicker. And if there is a power outage, my battery system isn't seeing a 400W draw for 10 mins. The combustion and convection fans only draw about 90W.
 
Here's what I depend on. Electric baseboard is for backup :rolleyes: Even though I am "remote" :cool: we seldom lose power for more than a few minutes, or once every couple of years eight hours maximum. Lines are all underground.

I use about 8 cords of pine and spruce each year. At 70, this is half a summer's endeavor, but I'm still good. I did the stonework on the fireplace about 40 years ago. There are 30+ tons on the house, all gathered by my parents and me. I love this place!

For what it's worth, we've gotten 16" snow in the last two days with more on the way. Thankfully, temps are moderate compared to what much of the country is receiving.
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Are you burning pine by choice or is that all that’s available? I’ve always found it to burn fast and not produce as much heat. I heat with wood at my cabin. I usually burn Oak, Maple or Ash. I keep a little pine around for the outside fire pit.
 

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My house is pretty tight so if the heat went out it probably would stay tolerable for quite a while. If I needed some extra heat I could back the cars out of the garage and light up the fish cooker with a 20 pound propane tank that I used in the chili cookoffs. It puts out a lot of BTUs so I can get 3 gallons of chili bubbling pretty well.

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Are you burning pine by choice or is that all that’s available? I’ve always found it to burn fast and not produce as much heat. I heat with wood at my cabin. I usually burn Oak, Maple or Ash. I keep a little pine around for the outside fire pit.

Well, sure I would love to burn hardwood, but soft is what is available. It's 100 miles to the good stuff. Cost plus hauling has not yet outweighed the million acres of soft stuff outside my door.

BTW, how is the hardwood on chains? I usually put 4 strokes of a file on my sharp Stihl (yellow) chains at each fill up on gas and throw inch long chips. However, I'm really only good for two tank's full, plus loading and unloading, per day. That's about a cord, but then there is the splitting (electric is fantastic) and stacking. Like I said, a good summer's work. If you have any free hard stuff available within range, please let me know. ;)
 
Buy 2 EV's, park 'em in your garage, and sit in them running their heaters when the power goes out. Prolly last a couple days anyhow.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
For the cost of 2EVs with enough capacity, you could get a proper battery backup system and maybe a used diesel genny that would run essentials!

I have an Outback battery backup system with 4, L16 heavy-duty batteries and a c.1960 3-cyl. Onan 6kW diesel with a 100L (25 gallon) tank. As I have a gas boiler & baseboards, the heating doesn't draw much. And the pellet stove only draws about 90W with the convection fan on. (I light it with a propane torch rather than the 400W ignitor.)

I have to be careful with the well pump of course, as well as microwave, kettle etc., but I time the use of these when I need to charge the batteries, which will run the essentials in the house for about 4-5 hours. Got me through an 80+ hour outage a few years ago :)
 
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