.32 H&R coming back to the J frame - Ultimate Carry by Lipsey

I'm definitely getting the 432, and maybe the 442. A friend is thinking of getting the 632 and 642. We were just talking about how great a 6 shot .32 Centennial would be and these appear. My birthday is in March, so I think I've found my birthday present to myself.

If they offered an equivalent K frame I'd buy a couple in each caliber, and I know several others who would buy them too.
 
The lock generally is a forbidden topic, but the lock is not a safety feature. It was a political response to a question that was never asked. In addition, on other forums I have been told by people who are pretty savvy that some LE agencies prohibit revolvers with locks as it is a failure point that serves no legitimate purpose.
Kids? The proper place for your sidearm is on your person until and unless you have taught your kids what not to do, and even then, there is a good argument for carrying it.
 
Just checked price on factory .32 H&R magnum.

All I'll say is darn glad I reload.

That holds true of virtually a calibers other than perhaps 9mm and 223. Of course the cost of primers :eek: have become a limiting factor for reloaders. If you cast bullets and preserve your brass, powder is used in such small weights that if you can get a decent price on primers, the 32 family is downright cheap to shoot with reloads. I save my factory ammo for "special occasions".
Froggie
 
I don't think I've ever been excited for a new production unit of any kind...but I am now.

Been window shopping for an older 432 or 431 for many years but I always balked at the cost. Even if I spent the money I wouldn't feel right carrying such a rare collector piece. That seems to be a problem eliminated by these new models...and dare I say these look BETTER than the originals?

Be still, my heart.
 
I literally just told myself that I am completely done ordering guns and then these come out which is everything I want in a J-frame.

I've already told my dealer to try finding me one and I'm kicking myself cause I wanted to be done.
 
I also hope that VZ adds those grips to their catalog. I do not care for sharp ledge at the top of their normal backstrap covering grips. If they offer these with the blended/tapered backstrap then I would order them for my 38s as well.
 
Didn't S&W previously manufacture 632s with a stainless steel frame?
 
Didn't S&W previously manufacture 632s with a stainless steel frame?

I believe they did, but IIRC it was a totally different model with different features. Didn't the earlier on come with a ported barrel? The one I just found listed also had an exposed hammer, the hated IL, and a blackened finish. Same number, different gun!
Froggie
 
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What's so special about 32hr? I've just watched a few YouTube ballistics and barrier penetration test, and I looked up Lucky Gunner's ammo testing. I wasn't impressed at all and I don't understand why anyone would choose a 32hr over a 38 special especially being that ammo availability and selection with 38 special is more plentiful. It doesn't seem like it makes sense for self-defense or plinking purposes over 38 special.

I don't understand the hype over the new S&W uc 32h&r offering. Is this a case of people just wanting it because it's new or the grass is greener on the other side? Heck, on AmmoSeek.com, the cheapest ammo I see is over $1 per round! It doesn't make sense. It seems as 327 Federal would have made more sense than 32hr.
 
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I believe they did, but IIRC it was a totally different model with different features. Didn't the earlier on come with a ported barrel? The one I just found listed also had an exposed hammer, the hated IL, and a blackened finish. Same number, different gun!
Froggie

There were a couple PC models but the one you are probably alluding to is the 32H&R version of the 640 pro series I mentioned and shared a picture of earlier in this thread. Stainless with Trijicon night sights (the 640 is cut for moon clips). Finding and buying one is a difficult and pricey affair, though I don't think they will command the same prices now that these UC's have been released.

SVT28
 
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Gosh, let's use the same model numbers for two revolvers again, they should of chambered another one in 30 Super Duper Carry
 
What's so special about 32hr? I've just watched a few YouTube ballistics and barrier penetration test, and I looked up Lucky Gunner's ammo testing. I wasn't impressed at all and I don't understand why anyone would choose a 32hr over a 38 special especially being that ammo availability and selection with 38 special is more plentiful. It doesn't seem like it makes sense for self-defense or plinking purposes over 38 special.

I don't understand the hype over the new S&W uc 32h&r offering. Is this a case of people just wanting it because it's new or the grass is greener on the other side? Heck, on AmmoSeek.com, the cheapest ammo I see is over $1 per round! It doesn't make sense. It seems as 327 Federal would have made more sense than 32hr.

Well, I'd argue that the best part about 32H&R J frames is the plain fact that it has a capacity of 6 rounds, 20% more than a 38/357 J frame. That extra round very well could mean the difference between life or death.

Some other things I like about it that have been mentioned here and in the Lipsey video is the fact that you can shoot both magnum and 32 s&w long and short in it. All 32 long ammo tested on lucky gunner show 12"+ of penetration and no over penetration while in a low recoiling package. I reload, so cost is a non factor for me. I bought a case of 100 grain 32 Xtp bullets for 18 cents a round, so with an 8 cent primer and some W231 I can reload H&R for less than 30 cents a round.

Ok so self defense ammo is $1 a round or more factory loaded. Spend less than you do on a dinner out on the town and get 2 or 3 boxes of Buffalo Bore or Underwood and shoot 32 long for practice. 32 long is about the same cost as quality factory 38 special. Heck, the only self defense round I would consider in a short barrel 38 j frame is the HST, which is currently unobtainable and if you find it it's definitely over $1 per round.

I will be first in line for one of the 432pds and I will now be able to carry/shoot my current 432pd more without worry about the frame cracking or additional wear on the finish.

Just my .02

SVT28
 
This is what I was alluding to. 520, M&P, Bodyguard, etc.- I wish people would respect established nomenclature. That said I think these revolvers look great.
 
As far as prices for .32, I've found to just search the internet for the best prices. Lanbos Armory has S&W Long right now for $20.07 a box of 50. .32 H&R does run more, but I see that as more of my SD round. My regular shooting will be with .32 S&W Long.

I decided to go the reloading route and ordered dies, bullets, and brass.

Here's the Lanbo's link if anyone wants to stock-up early.
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And Mid-South shooters actually has .32 H&R Critical Defense FTX ammo in stock if you prefer an HP over a WC for SD.
 
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I have trained a bunch of people, including my grandkids on safe firearm handling and how to fire a revolver using my 32 magnum revolvers. I start with mild 32 S&W, 32 Long, and then 32 magnum. Recoil and noise is a distraction for new shooters.
Once they are getting confidence in their abilities I will switch up and load a cylinder with a variety and let them try again. My 5th grader granddaughter face lights up when she hits bulls eye with every shot!
 
What's so special about 32hr? I've just watched a few YouTube ballistics and barrier penetration test, and I looked up Lucky Gunner's ammo testing. I wasn't impressed at all and I don't understand why anyone would choose a 32hr over a 38 special especially being that ammo availability and selection with 38 special is more plentiful. It doesn't seem like it makes sense for self-defense or plinking purposes over 38 special.

I don't understand the hype over the new S&W uc 32h&r offering. Is this a case of people just wanting it because it's new or the grass is greener on the other side? Heck, on AmmoSeek.com, the cheapest ammo I see is over $1 per round! It doesn't make sense. It seems as 327 Federal would have made more sense than 32hr.

Training could help with this but my reply to the 32 h&r vs 38 spl question is that 32 h&r is much more controllable in the airweight j-frames and still delivers comparable results to 38 spl on the receiving end. In steel framed j-frames such as the 640, recoil is much more controllable and I might lean more to that cartridge when factoring in more frame heft. Training can help bridge the shooter's ability to manage either cartridge but given similar guns, the lighter shooting gun will always be more manageable. While not dropping down to 22LR for less recoil, the 32 h&r cartridge is a good compromise between shootable and effective. The additional round in a j-frame cylinder is another bonus.
 
If one wants to carry the smallest lightest revolver that is still real effective the 32 SWL and the 32 H&R make a lot of sense. Less noise, less recoil and 6 rounds with about the same effectiveness as the 38 special that only holds 5 round.

While I do love big heavy bullets, the truth is accuracy is every bit as important as power.

All that coupled with the fact that light weight J frames are easy to carry and therefor MORE APT to be carried makes them a solid choice.
 
What's so special about 32hr? I've just watched a few YouTube ballistics and barrier penetration test, and I looked up Lucky Gunner's ammo testing. I wasn't impressed at all and I don't understand why anyone would choose a 32hr over a 38 special especially being that ammo availability and selection with 38 special is more plentiful. It doesn't seem like it makes sense for self-defense or plinking purposes over 38 special.

I don't understand the hype over the new S&W uc 32h&r offering. Is this a case of people just wanting it because it's new or the grass is greener on the other side? Heck, on AmmoSeek.com, the cheapest ammo I see is over $1 per round! It doesn't make sense. It seems as 327 Federal would have made more sense than 32hr.

For those of us over the age of seventy, there was a song by the Lovin' Spoonful that pretty well sums it up, "… it's like tryin' to tell a stranger 'bout Rock n Roll." Either you get it or you don't. BTW, have you actually spent some quality time on the range or in the field with a good 32? It's an experience not to be missed. I was a follower of Elmer Keith and still have a 8 3/8" Model 29, but for sheer joy of shooting, give me one of my 32s.
Froggie
 
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