.32 H&R coming back to the J frame - Ultimate Carry by Lipsey

For those who reload I have found Sierra 90gr semi jacketed HP running at 1008fps out of a 6" 16-4 or 6" single six to be very accurate! (using universal powder) I believe if they dont do a second run of these revolvers it wont be the guns fault.......but high ammo cost for those who dont reload..!
 
Hope I don’t loose this with forum problems.

I’m a big 32 nut and these J’s are “Super Cool”. “Love” the rear U notch rear and big round front sight. Plus the internal changes and better grips. These guns are what people made with a regular J in the past spending lots of money on to upgrade. In 327 it would be brutal, I don’t like shooting 327.

I used to carry a revolver usually a 642 or a K which was heavier and bulkier. Carried a Kimber K6 for 2 years, heavy. Had a K frame made by Andy Horvath with a 3” full lug bbl in .327. I rounded the grip. Nice 32 carry gun but bulky in the summer and easier to hide in the winter. Would be better in an alloy frame.

Also not sure if a 32 mag would be better than a 38 spec with defense ammo. We could argue this for days The ultimate 32 J would be my choice, it is something I would have had made years ago. “It fits my 32 addiction nicelyl. I reload so it’s not a problem, have a box of 32 mag defensive ammo downstairs

Decided that a Sig 365 would be better with 12 rounds or more. A “LOT” of friends carried one. Anyone that I would use it on probably has a hi cap something so I have a hard time going back to a revolver. Every time I think to grab a revolver, I take the 365 instead. Have my wife’s 642 but it stays in the safe. A light weight small gun with 6 shots is great.

Again, these J frame revolvers get my attention big time and I am sure I could find a situation I would take it with me. The price is right on these guns and pride of ownership would be strong. Shooting it at the Tuesday morning old guys shoot would be fun but I have other 32’s sitting in the safe not being used and fun to shoot. Larry
 

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Many people have been saying ever since I’ve been here 5 is enough.

If you go over to the ASSRA.com the single shot rifle guys will tell you one shot is enough… one good shot, that is! :D

It’s all in your perspective, my friend, all in your perspective.

Froggie
 
If you go over to the ASSRA.com the single shot rifle guys will tell you one shot is enough… one good shot, that is! :D

It’s all in your perspective, my friend, all in your perspective.

Froggie

IF your over 300yard away they are 100% correct. At 15 yards they are 100% wrong, especially against multiple attackers

As far as the LOCK goes. I would be willing to bet that 99% of the revolvers so equipped never ever get the lock engaged. As stated small lock boxes are faster to use and have the HUGE advantage of better securing you gun from theft. When I absolutely must leave my gun and want it secured, I use the kind that uses the tubular key, difficult to pic not easy to quickly defeat for casual thief. I have given both of my step daughters alloy J frames with the lock, Both also go one of those boxes at the same time. Anyone can pick up a S&W revolver with the lock engaged and walk away with it then use a easy to obtain universal key on it or just flat remove it in a few minutes with just a screw driver. About as secure as everyone locking their houses with the same key. Would you do that? What makes you think it is that great for your guns

PS, I have bought alloy J frames in 38 special and then equipped them with 32 cylinders and barrels. If I can find a steel Magnum J frame it will become a 327 mag. I know from experience it is to hard to control an alloy J frame so set up.
 
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I'm not a fan of J frames for self protection use for a lot of reasons, some of which are just mine and won't apply to others. While I don't see this model fitting any of my likely needs, if that changes, I would snag one of these. Better sights and action make a huge difference in the utility of a J frame to me.

I have been somewhat familiar with Nyeti's research and writing for 17 or so years; he is a friend of friends and his skill and knowledge are based on years of work. I would trust his insights and judgment about serious use firearms more than almost anyone else in the firearms industry.
 
Availability and price of all factory ammo, with a couple of exceptions, has been all over the map lately. Sometimes a new offering from a major manufacturer can provide an incentive for the ammo producers to increase production and can even lower the price sometimes. I do not enjoy the .327 mag as much as any other .32 and I own several .32 H&R mag revolvers that are about as much fun as you can handle. I cast and reload all of the .32 rounds and I find the .32 with the least amount of powder and lead to be the most economic centerfire round to shoot and enjoy.
 
My order in as well. I think the initial rush for these guns is going to be fairly heavy. Obviously Lipsey thinks they will sell well.

I'm sure they'll end-up on Gunbroker first with bids over $1K. Those that want to pay a reasonable price will probably have to wait a few months.

And per the video below, dealer price will be $599 (you can see it on the tag hanging off the gun). Shipping end of February.

New Smith & Wesson "Ultimate Carry" Airweight Revolvers -The Firearm Blog

New Smith & Wesson "Ultimate Carry" Airweight Revolvers - YouTube
 
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Glad to see this happening, but there is a caveat - holsters. You would think that any J-frame holster would work and there certainly is a plethora of them out there. However, you may find that a J-frame holster, typically made for a .38/.357 J-frame has the cylinder flutes boned in. The .32's are 6-shot cylinders and thus the flutes are placed differently. I have a very nice Andrews MacDaniel II for my 638 and 940 J's. Tried it with my 331 and 431 and found that while I could force it in - which I really don't want to do - it was a bad fit for 6-shot cylinder. Eventually would have ruined the holster and would have impeded any draw-stroke in the meantime. So you need a holster boned for a 6-shot cylinder or one that is not boned at all in the cylinder area (like for an unfluted cylinder).

Just a word to the wise. For those out there already packing a .32 J-frame, what are your findings and what do you use?

Adios,

Pizza Bob
 
Glad to see this happening, but there is a caveat - holsters. You would think that any J-frame holster would work and there certainly is a plethora of them out there. However, you may find that a J-frame holster, typically made for a .38/.357 J-frame has the cylinder flutes boned in. The .32's are 6-shot cylinders and thus the flutes are placed differently. I have a very nice Andrews MacDaniel II for my 638 and 940 J's. Tried it with my 331 and 431 and found that while I could force it in - which I really don't want to do - it was a bad fit for 6-shot cylinder. Eventually would have ruined the holster and would have impeded any draw-stroke in the meantime. So you need a holster boned for a 6-shot cylinder or one that is not boned at all in the cylinder area (like for an unfluted cylinder).

Just a word to the wise. For those out there already packing a .32 J-frame, what are your findings and what do you use?

Adios,

Pizza Bob

The answer is Simply Rugged pancakes...
 

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Glad to see this happening, but there is a caveat - holsters. You would think that any J-frame holster would work and there certainly is a plethora of them out there. However, you may find that a J-frame holster, typically made for a .38/.357 J-frame has the cylinder flutes boned in. The .32's are 6-shot cylinders and thus the flutes are placed differently. I have a very nice Andrews MacDaniel II for my 638 and 940 J's. Tried it with my 331 and 431 and found that while I could force it in - which I really don't want to do - it was a bad fit for 6-shot cylinder. Eventually would have ruined the holster and would have impeded any draw-stroke in the meantime. So you need a holster boned for a 6-shot cylinder or one that is not boned at all in the cylinder area (like for an unfluted cylinder).

Just a word to the wise. For those out there already packing a .32 J-frame, what are your findings and what do you use?

Adios,

Pizza Bob

I have a 432PD, with the barrel configuration they show on these new models, I found the barrel was not compatible with several of my existing J frame holsters, but the cylinder would go in if they were a bit broken in.
 
What's so special about 32hr? I've just watched a few YouTube ballistics and barrier penetration test, and I looked up Lucky Gunner's ammo testing. I wasn't impressed at all and I don't understand why anyone would choose a 32hr over a 38 special especially being that ammo availability and selection with 38 special is more plentiful. It doesn't seem like it makes sense for self-defense or plinking purposes over 38 special.

I don't understand the hype over the new S&W uc 32h&r offering. Is this a case of people just wanting it because it's new or the grass is greener on the other side? Heck, on AmmoSeek.com, the cheapest ammo I see is over $1 per round! It doesn't make sense. It seems as 327 Federal would have made more sense than 32hr.


I agree to above. Much ado about nothing. Will just become another "collector" gun. Makes zero sense with the availability of .38 special and .357 and how you can choose your recoil level with light or hot loads of each. Nobody is going to find .32 H&R at the local overpriced gunshop. Come on guys. Smith should focus on quality control and nothing else right now. Making some real junk currently.
 
What's so special about 32hr? I've just watched a few YouTube ballistics and barrier penetration test, and I looked up Lucky Gunner's ammo testing. I wasn't impressed at all and I don't understand why anyone would choose a 32hr over a 38 special especially being that ammo availability and selection with 38 special is more plentiful. It doesn't seem like it makes sense for self-defense or plinking purposes over 38 special.

I don't understand the hype over the new S&W uc 32h&r offering. Is this a case of people just wanting it because it's new or the grass is greener on the other side? Heck, on AmmoSeek.com, the cheapest ammo I see is over $1 per round! It doesn't make sense. It seems as 327 Federal would have made more sense than 32hr.

Same reason some folks like matcha tea ice cream or concrete grey cars. Personal preferences are personal.
 

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