30-06 reloads POI

[raljr1]

I loaded some 165 gr Hornady SST bullets with 53.5 grains 4350. I shot some factory Remington 165 grains before shooting the reloads. First target is the factory loads, second is the reloads. Is it unusual for the point of impact to move left or right like that? I would have figured some elevation change....

These are my first 06 reloads and i only loaded about a dozen for testing.

Thinking i should load a box and see how they go. I don't know why the second photo got flipped.

 

[rockquarry]

I loaded some 165 gr Hornady SST bullets with 53.5 grains 4350. I shot some factory Remington 165 grains before shooting the reloads. First target is the factory loads, second is the reloads. Is it unusual for the point of impact to move left or right like that? I would have figured some elevation change....

These are my first 06 reloads and i only loade about a dozen for testing.

Thinking i should load a box and see how they go.

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I couldn't pull up your attachments, but it's very common for different loads regardless of bullet weight to have varying (often quite significant) points of impact in elevation or windage or both. In fact, it's more the norm.

 

[cruiserdan]

I couldn't pull up your attachments, but it's very common for different loads regardless of bullet weight to have varying (often quite significant) points of impact in elevation or windage or both. In fact, it's more the norm.

The attachments are now back.

Agreed. I'm not surprised. The good news is both groups are fairly tight. This suggests the rifle is consistent and all that is needed is zeroing the sights for the load you plan to stay with.

 

[raljr1]

I couldn't pull up your attachments, but it's very common for different loads regardless of bullet weight to have varying (often quite significant) points of impact in elevation or windage or both. In fact, it's more the norm.

So essentially sight in the rifle for the different load. Thanks. I will load up a full box and see how they perform. then decide which loads to sight the gun in for.

 

[Nevada Ed]

If any design of the bullets are different, in any way,

plus a different fps

a different powder

barrel harmonies will change

and the bullet should have a different, POI, on your target.

Not a big thing, since you can "Dial in" the final load, that you deside on using.

Have fun.

 

[raljr1]

The attachments are now back.

Agreed. I'm not surprised. The good news is both groups are fairly tight. This suggests the rifle is consistent and all that is needed is zeroing the sights for the load you plan to stay with.

The rifle is a Remington 760 pump.

 

[rockquarry]

The rifle is a Remington 760 pump.

Pump centerfire rifles aren't noted for fine accuracy. Looks like you own an exceptional example.

 

[Nevada Ed]

In my 30-06 1903 bolt action, with the Hornady 165 SST #30452
set at (my chamber) oal of 3.34" was accurate with;

54grs of imr4350, cci 250 at 2570fps and
55grs of imr4831, cci 250 at 2530fps
with both putting 4 @ .89" at 100 yards, or better.

I could get 2760fps to work, back in july of 1983, with the new bullet.
Good shooting.

 

[arjay]

It’s been years since I reloaded for rifle,but yeah,they do that

 

[STORMINORMAN]

Depending upon how far the O/Ps test shots actually were those groups could range from just fine to outright unbelievable! for a 1st attempt at rifle reloading...

At least IMHO...?

CHEERS!

 

[raljr1]

Depending upon how far the O/Ps test shots actually were those groups could range from just fine to outright unbelievable! for a 1st attempt at rifle reloading...

At least IMHO...?

CHEERS!

100 yards.

 

[raljr1]

In my 30-06 1903 bolt action, with the Hornady 165 SST #30452
set at (my chamber) oal of 3.34" was accurate with;

54grs of imr4350, cci 250 at 2570fps and
55grs of imr4831, cci 250 at 2530fps
with both putting 4 @ .89" at 100 yards, or better.

I could get 2760fps to work, back in july of 1983, with the new bullet.
Good shooting.

Thanks, I thought about bumping the load up a bit. I know that 53.5 is on the low end.

 

[Bald1]

Based on that group with factory ammo I wouldn’t bother reloading

 

[WR Moore]

Waaay back when I was using the ought six for deer, I settled on the Hornady 180 gr RN. Then one deer season, I needed more 180 gr RN bullets and the only ones available were Sierra. Bullets looked identical, so I figured there'd be no problem.

Same cases, primers, powder & charge and the Sierras grouped a couple of inches right comparted to the Hornady. Elevation just fine.

FWIW, my load used 54.5 gr IMR 4350 with the 180's and an OAL that put the base of the bullet about at the bottom of the neck. The '06 typically has a very long throat for 200 gr bullets. You could definitely bump the powder charge up.

 

[raljr1]

Based on that group with factory ammo I wouldn’t bother reloading

Except for the couple hundred empties and components. If I load them up I'll have enough to shoot for the next 20 years.

Maybe sell the components and buy more factory ammo? Nah,.

 

[Dave Haynes]

In the '80s I did a lot of reloading to shoot in an M1 Garand. The most accurate loads by far were using 4064. I used Sierra 168 gr Internationals exclusively. To show how important charge weight was: 45gr of 4064 shot groups the size of tea cups at 100 yds, 48gr of 4064 shot groups that you could cover with a US Quarter. I tried most of the IMR powders 4895, Varget, 4350 etc. 4064 beat all of them by far.

 

[Drm50]

Remington 742/ 7400 & 76/ 7600 series rifles are similar to slot machines.
They are 100yd meat guns. The secret of getting them to shoot in 30/06 chambering is 180gr RN bullets at about 2400fps, powder of your choice.
The horizontal is a lot even for a 760. I would check barrel bolt for tightness. Don’t even try to compare loads shot from bolt actions to these guns.
I always hear stories about tack driving 742/760s owned dozens ain’t got a good on yet. When teenager saved up for one. First new rifle ever purchased and my first mistake.

 

[paknheat]

Rifle shot that good right from the jump, I think I’d probably leave it alone and just make a lot more and re-zero the rifle to it.


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[Skeet 028]

That's pretty good from a pump for certain. I have a nice Kimber 30-06 bolt gun Classic select. I bought a box of Hornady Superformance ammo with that same bullet. It also did not shoot to point of aim. with an adjustment of the scope it made it the most accurate hunting rifle I have ever had. Will literally shoot under a 1/2 inch with the right trigger puller(not me). Still under an inch at 200. neatest thing is I can reload my ammo...same bullets ,powder and cases...primers too. I went back to the same farm store a couple days later and bought 10 boxes of the same lot number ammo on sale. Adjust your scope and keep that load. Oh an I've had quite a few Remingron 760s and 742s . Had one in 243 that was a good one to 175 yds or so...about as far as I needed to shoot a deer...with that caliber and I have old ugly...my 30-06- 742 I bought at an auction down in Tensleep...Paid $75.00 for it. Had a crack in the stock where it mates to the receiver....about maybe 60% blue with an old Weave K 3 post crosshair. Somebody had removed the stock plate that all those Remington guns have. Fixed the crack replaced the plate and put it together. It will shoot factory 150 gr Corelokts great for 3 rounds about an inch and a half...4th about an inch and a 1/2 farther out...and worse from there...till it cools off. then back to the beginning. You've got a great hunting rifle there. You will probably find the groups open up with more rounds shot in a string...but when hunting the first 2 are most important

 

[WR Moore]

Skeets post reminded me: that '06 rifle puts the clean/cold bore shot (CBS) several inches above expected POI. The second shot is about halfway to where it's supposed to be, the rest go right where they're supposed to be. Clean bores sometimes do this. How much, if any, variation you get is good to know.

The CBS wasn't far enough off for me not to collect deer, but you do want to check your rifle for that habit. There are some folks who make sure their rifles are however many shots dirty they need to put the bullet exactly where they want it. I've now got 2 bolt guns that put everything where I want it. I prize them.