Illegal Immigrants can Possess Firearms

[ggibson511960]

Federal Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman of the U.S. Federal District Court of Northern Illinois has ruled that illegal immigrants may legally possess firearms. She dismissed prosecution case against illegal immigrant Heriberto Carbajal-Flores arguing the Bruen case broadened the 2nd Amendment context and scope to include illegal immigrants.

Judge Coleman, appointed by Barack Obama, was surely torn between progressive/liberal leniency towards illegal immigrants and antipathy towards any gun rights.

 

[CH4]

FOID card?
Wonder how the 7th will handle this?

 

[djohns6]

NOTHING surprises me . I think I know what the end game is though . More gun legislation to combat the rising crime rate that they created .

 

[hkcavalier]

Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven would approve.

 

[ladder13]

Can felons in jail (they need protection too), wife beaters, dopers, etc, be far behind?

Maybe a good time to buy stock in gun manufacturers.

 

[Frailer]

I’ve not read the text of the decision, but IMHO the right to bear arms is a *human* right.

Meaning it applies to everyone.

 

[twodog max]

I cannot agree with this decision. As these individuals have demonstrated a disregard for the laws of this country. The rights and privilege's thereof should not extend to them. A bus trip south is in order.

 

[Rustyt1953]

 

[Buford57]

2nd Amendment advocates have long argued that it should be on equal footing with the 1st, 4th, 5th and 6th. Since we do.not limit the right to worship, or a fair trial or advice of counsel to citizens, this appears to be what we asked for. There are pending suits challenging the whole FOID system. Again, this is the hoped-for outcome, that post-Bruen a FOID requirement is an unconstitutional infringement. Now if some brave judge will just apply it to US citizens.

 

[hdfinder47]

I’ve not read the text of the decision, but IMHO the right to bear arms is a *human* right.

Meaning it applies to everyone.

I thought the Second Amendment of the US Constitution applied to American citizens - not foreigners on US property illegally.
Ed

 

[DWalt]

They are NOT illegal immigrants. They are now officially Newcomers. That came straight from the top.

 

[Breakaway500]

Arming their armies.And WE are paying for it all, one way or the other. The socialists really don’t care about Constitutions. I was hoping not to see more wars before I pass but that’s out the window. Psychopaths!

 

[Frailer]

I thought the Second Amendment of the US Constitution applied to American citizens - not foreigners on US property illegally.
Ed

There are some rights that are conferred to citizens alone, such as the right to vote or run for federal office, but in general Constitutional rights apply to all.

To quote Jefferson:

“…a bill of rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on earth, general or particular, and what no just government should refuse…”

Edited to add: For the record, none of what I said should be in any way construed as a reflection of my political opinions regarding the current situation with immigration (legal or otherwise) into the US. It is merely my opinion (and that of others who know much more about the law than I) regarding the nature of rights guaranteed (as opposed to granted) by our Bill of Rights.

There are many people I would personally ban from firearms ownership if I were king. But thankfully for all of us I’m not king.

 

[Oldsalt66]

Hopefully the same consideration will be extended to Americans who happen to live in gun rights restrictive municipalities and states.

 

[ladder13]

That’s one way to find out their names and country of origin, maybe.

Does the rest of the world do BGC’s?

 

[ASA335]

Hmmm...

I suspect that some judges will take Bruen close to extremes just to force the reversal or at least weakening of Bruen.

Isn't carrying of a firearm while committing a crime historically prohibited?

Isn't being a criminal in possession of a firearm a crime historically prohibited?

Heriberto Carbajal-Flores admits to being here illegally, and may have been found through due process as such, and as such is a criminal.

 

[ASA335]

But, this judge's reasoning has some merit. A person who is not committing a crime, or has not be found guilty of a crime, or has not been found to be a danger to themselves or other, through a due process, should not be prohibited from possessing or bearing a firearm in any of the states.

 

[Greyman50]

Constitution and Bill of Rights are for US Citizens. Remember back when they were written people came here to BECOME Citizens and enjoy freedom. These illegal invaders are just part of a soros et- al plan to destroy our country.
Round every one of them up from few days old to 90 and ship them back to Mexico.

 

[Rustyt1953]

 

[YeshuaIsa53]

Just remember there is alcohol in the pool below the sliding boards.

Why are people considered legal in the first place? How can their backgrounds be fully checked? Is it not a crime to cross into America without all the proper paperwork and loopholes covered? We seem like we want more loopholes, but we must process people by the law. Would new laws overcome the border crisis?

Most of us want truths about the ongoing affairs of our country. People are people, but I've been walking lines most all my life. Can we afford healthcare? Let's change the subject and give them guns.