Problem with New 29-10

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First I want to apologize for not posting sooner I am a casual reader of the forum and have learned a great deal from you all. I believe it is better to be quiet and listen when the smart people are talking.
I picked up my new 29-10 from Academy Sports this morning. Looked it over good I thought but when I got it home I noticed the barrel is marked 41 magnum. I'm not a happy customer at this point. I tried 44 mag cartridges in the cylinder and they fit. When I tried to place a 44 bullet in the forcing cone it doesn't go in nearly as far as it does in my 629. I'm not real good with a caliper but the muzzle end of the 629 measured .420 and I got .405 on the 29-10. Is it possible that this weapon has an actual 41 mag barrel not just miss marked? How could they have test fired this gun?
Otherwise it looks great nice presentation box and tool kit but I don't think it's safe to shoot. Smith and Wesson sent me a shipping label I'll update when I hear from them.
I'm not bashing Smith and Wesson I own several I'm a big fan. I've never had a problem.
This situation makes me sad.

Thanks JD
 
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I'm working on photos waiting for the sun to get a little lower. My first try wasn't very good. I hate for my first post to be negative. This just really surprised me.
 
When making thousands and thousands of something, there will be one here and there that's not right. No one is perfect. When S&W gets that gun, THEY will say "How could that ever happen?" It's part of running high production volumes. A few bad ones get out the door.
 
I am sure that S&W will just send a whole new one but, could they change the cylinder to 41 mag and have an oddball 29-10 or can they put a new barrel on it to make it a true 44mag?
 
Someone may well have fired it at the factory. I would bet that if fired, you would end up with some shaved lead and a longer .410 bullet. I doubt the gun wouldn't handle it. Swagging soft lead and copper from .429 to .410 isn't that difficult. The forcing cone would probably take more punishment than the cylinder.

It is also possible the guy who test fired it saw 41 mag on the barrel, dumped in 3 41 mags, went bang click bang click bang, ejected the 3 bulged out cases into the empty brass bin and went on coffee break, having tested the require number for Monday morning.

If you have any 45 cal muzzle loader balls you could tap one part way in each muzzle. pull it out and get better measurements.

S&W should hang their head in shame. This is the result of assemblers putting together the same pieces one after the other as apposed to craftsmen assembling them.
 
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JD3006 said:
First I want to apologize for not posting sooner I am a casual reader of the forum and have learned a great deal from you all. I believe it is better to be quiet and listen when the smart people are talking.
I picked up my new 29-10 from Academy Sports this morning. Looked it over good I thought but when I got it home I noticed the barrel is marked 41 magnum. I'm not a happy customer at this point. I tried 44 mag cartridges in the cylinder and they fit. When I tried to place a 44 bullet in the forcing cone it doesn't go in nearly as far as it does in my 629. I'm not real good with a caliper but the muzzle end of the 629 measured .420 and I got .405 on the 29-10. Is it possible that this weapon has an actual 41 mag barrel not just miss marked? How could they have test fired this gun?
Otherwise it looks great nice presentation box and tool kit but I don't think it's safe to shoot. Smith and Wesson sent me a shipping label I'll update when I hear from them.
I'm not bashing Smith and Wesson I own several I'm a big fan. I've never had a problem.
This situation makes me sad.

Thanks JD
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This gun needs to go back to S&W. Do not fire it. Bore diameter on the 44 Magnum is .421. You got a 44 cylinder and a 41 barrel perhaps. Be careful!
 
It is a shame the Academy folks did not catch it, but they are the same folks who told me there is only a six-shot S&W revolver produced when they had a 8 shot S&W R8 in their case. Mot to let S&W off the hook, but you might want to buy the nicer firearms like a model 29 somewhere else. When I bought the R8, I was sure to ask the clerk to be sure to put all 8 cylinders in the box. S&W will eventually make it right.
 
Wow! Thank goodness you caught that! I don’t think it would ever occur to me the barrel of my brand new gun might be the wrong caliber. But it will now. Are there any signs that the gun has been fired?

Please post pics of this.41/.44 squeeze-bore prototype. On the upside, you hopefully have one of one gun. Might be some collector value!
 
I just finished the letter to include with the weapon when I send it back tomorrow. I had to cool off a little after I thought about what might have happened had I fired it. I noticed when I picked it up there were no powder rings on the cylinder I thought maybe they cleaned it. I'm embarrassed I did not see the barrel marking before I took it home. It was a special order so the Academy staff did not look at it before I picked it up. Missing the problem is 100% on me. I took pictures but have no idea how to post them. I expect Smith and Wesson will make it right I'll let you all know how it goes.

JD
 
JD3006, you upload pictures to your post by clicking Add File at the bottom of the page where you make a post.
 
SLT223 said:
Please post pics of this.41/.44 squeeze-bore prototype. On the upside, you hopefully have one of one gun. Might be some collector value!
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Should take it to the next shot show and show it off while you hang out with it in front of the S&W booth.

I am sure it would get some real interest from some people. It should get the most interest from both the S&W quality control AND Liability dept.
 
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