Is .380 ACP effective against canine threats?

If .380 was "enough" Elmer would not have given us the 357, 44, or 41 magnum.

None of the aforementioned cartridges were developed with Coyotes, Dogs, or even Wolves in mind. They were designed for larger predators.
 
I think that statement was said tongue in cheek! But ole Elmer was a hoot...LOL
Maybe, but the point is still valid and some may not "get it".
Just to be clear: from everything I've read, the .357 was developed to penetrate engine blocks and windshield "safety glass" so LEO's could stop prohibition-era gangsters - not canines.
Likewise the .44 cartridges were developed for large game hunting - not for stopping dogs.
 
Ayy experiece out there with stun guns and (wild or not) dogs? I know that pretty much any animal in my house will run to the absolute far reaches of the house when I ‘shoot” the thing - even without touching them. I’d suspect they’d run like heck just at the sound of that “zz, zz, zzzzz.”
 
so from everything I've read, the .357 was developed to penetrate engine blocks and windshield "safety glass" so LEO's could stop prohibition-era gangsters - not canines.
Likewise the .44 cartridges were developed for large game hunting - not for stopping dogs.
actually Elmer only played a part in the 357 development. Phil Sharpe was a big mover and shaker on the 357. ...and I think it was automobile Bodies they wanted to penetrate...Not engine blocks as has often been said. Auto bodies in the 30s were in a whole other world than the ones of today. Winchester developed the pointed copper plated bullets to do engine blocks...that didn't work either. But, they looked good for sales
 
actually Elmer only played a part in the 357 development. Phil Sharpe was a big mover and shaker on the 357. ...and I think it was automobile Bodies they wanted to penetrate...Not engine blocks as has often been said. Auto bodies in the 30s were in a whole other world than the ones of today. Winchester developed the pointed copper plated bullets to do engine blocks...that didn't work either. But, they looked good for sales
All well and good - the point being made was that no one was focused on stopping canine threats when developing ANY of the magnum cartridges.
Putting aside all posts focused on semantics and being pedantic...
 
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Mention was made earlier about the .30 carbine and it's round. Over about 2 weeks back in the 1960's I met 2 (or 3?) gents who served in the South Pacific during WWII. All had lost some part of their left hand. They were charged by sword wielding Japanese and only got off one round of the FMJ military ball. They were forced to use the carbine as a field expedient quarter staff until someone else solved their problem. One by a buddy with a Thompson.

I think it was that last guy who also had a picture of him and his late opponent, showing a bullet wound about at the bottom of the chest cavity (military aiming point).

While a handy item and-with good expanding bullet ammunition-a viable choice for a defensive firearm, ya gotta hit the threat in a vital area.
 
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