When Did It Start? (Carrying an Extra Mag)

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I did not get into guns deeply until about 20 years ago or so. But, it seems to me that when I was a kid, 50s, 60s, and perhaps later, I don't recall people with semi autos carrying back up mags.

I speculate that carrying an extra mag or more is a fairly recent phenomenon.

Am I wrong?
 
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When did they made the first semi with a magaine i imagine about 130 yrs ago?
I would want a spare, as well as extra bullets for a revolver, broomhandle Mauser used stripper clips.
Personal risk assessment, where you going, what's your job? At my age and risk Inormally only carry 5 rnds.
Mike
 
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How about, say, Texas Rangers with 1911s? Were they carrying spare mags?

How about, say, WWII officers with 1911s? Were they carrying spare mags?
 
I believe the OP is referring to off duty or concealed carry, not military or LE Duty carry. In the military context I'd say it started when the 1911s and corresponding load carrying equipment (holsters, pouches, lanyards,etc) where issued.

To get towards what I believe the OP is asking, that's more difficult. I know a number of folks that don't carry a spare magazine when CCWing and/or off duty. Back when I started carrying a handgun (revolver) in the late 90s most folks I knew weren't carrying extra ammo even for their wheel guns. This was in NY, just outside NYC, it could have been a regional thing. The shop I worked in sold a number of holsters, but few magazine pouches.

There where writers that did advocate carrying a spare mag, I remember Jeff Cooper had some pictures in his writings of some one carrying a double 1911 mag pouch.

I'll have to dig around and see if I can find some material with dates to get a better timeframe. I'd also have to look when they added the magazine pouches to shoulder holsters, that might give a timeframe.
 
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I did not get into guns deeply until about 20 years ago or so. But, it seems to me that when I was a kid, 50s, 60s, and perhaps later, I don't recall people with semi autos carrying back up mags.

I speculate that carrying an extra mag or more is a fairly recent phenomenon.

Am I wrong?

From what I have seen, LEO's and Army personnel have always carried spare magazines. That is pretty easy to see throughout history in the photo's of them. Over the last few decades with the popularity of the high capacity 9mm Glocks, Sigs, etc. many civilian's did not feel the need to carry a spare mag when their gun held 12, 13, 14, 15 + bullets. Some still did, but I would think you are probably correct in that most civilian's did not.

When I first started carrying back in 1979 I did so with a 6 shot revolver, then went to a lighter and smaller 5 shot M60. I always had an extra pouch of ammo on me. Many of my friends who were not LEO's did not. 5 years ago I started carrying my Sig P365 (10+1 on board) and when pocket carrying I did not carry a spare mag. My initial feeling was the 11 rounds was more than double that of my Chief's Special. When I used an OWB holster I did always have a spare mag on my belt pouch - I still do however even when pocket carrying now, I will carry a spare 10 round magazine in another pocket.

Today's criminal element is way different than even a decade ago! Now you can get killed for no reason at all and many times not just by one criminal. It is very popular now for criminals to travel in packs or gangs and if I ever had to defend myself I am not sure if only one mag full would do the trick. It is now popular for people to get attacked, shot and physically abused right out of the blue and for no reason at all other than they are there. My new line of thinking is what good is a powerful generator in a power outage without plenty of gas for it to run on. My thinking now is that if I am going through all the time, trouble, training, expense and effort to buy, carry and train with a firearm, shouldn't I feel comfortable that I have enough ammo with me should I ever need to use it? My feeling is that we now live in a time period that may not conform to the old shooting statistics (less than 3 shots). There are many places in the USA that the LEO's have had their wings clipped and you are pretty much on your own now. For the slight inconvenience, bulk and weight of an extra magazine, I get a better feeling by having one than to shed the extra weight and bulk and not to carry one.

I am "that guy" that will not drive a car without a spare tire, first aid kit, air compressor and tire plug kit onboard and so in the same vein, yes I now always have a spare mag on me.
 
When I was working I carried one spare mag. The pile of mags was to get me through a 60 round qual without holding up the line of Glock shooters.

Now that I am a retired gentleman of leisure, I don’t carry a reload.
 

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With military it goes back to before World War II

All you have to do is look at the military surplus holsters from Europe in the early 1900s and many of them had a spare mag pouch attached(sewn) to the holster itself

These days, in a Law Enforcement encounter it is usually your duty to stay in the event until it is resolved.

However in a civilian self defense encounter the purpose of your firearm is not to end the encounter but to give you an edge to allow you to extricate yourself out of the event

So the ammunition requirements of those two things can be dramatically different

Personal experiences and fears often fit into the decision to what you carry. I have drawn my sidearm 5 times but only been involved in a single firefight here in America. In that event I fired 4 rounds through the windshield of my Dodge K car, which ended the encounter

At the time I was carrying a SIG P220 and 2 spare magazines. The psychological effect on me from that incident caused me to go from carrying 2 spare magazines to carrying 6, even though I only expended 4 rounds of ammunition

These days, as a private citizen, I do not carry a reload whether I have a semi auto with me or a revolver.

Should America ever devolve into a SHTF style nation I will once again reevaluate those policies
 
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Magazines are of better quality nowadays.

For going a couple miles to the gym or down the road to a restaurant I feel one should suffice.
For walking solo on the greenway path, surrounded by woods and where one is more isolated, especially during the work week, two magazines.
 
It's not just a question of extra ammunition. Most malfunctions with modern semiautomatic handguns are magazine related . Glock at one time recommended failure drill rip the magazine from the weapon insert a new magazine work the slide . Our agency number magazines one of the reasons being tracking if a weapon malfunctioned . I knew one very well respected instructor who would discard a magazine when it reached a certain round count .
 
When did they made the first semi with a magaine i imagine about 130 yrs ago?
I would want a spare, as well as extra bullets for a revolver, broomhandle Mauser used stripper clips.
Personal risk assessment, where you going, what's your job? At my age and risk Inormally only carry 5 rnds.
Mike

I'm right here with you, Mike....
 
I'll have to dig around and see if I can find some material with dates to get a better timeframe. I'd also have to look when they added the magazine pouches to shoulder holsters, that might give a timeframe.

In 1999-2000 time frame, I had a shoulder rig for a full-size Kimber Classic Custom which included magazine pouches. Can't recall the manufacturer though...
 
Since 1986 when I started to carry a PPK as a suit gun, at least one spare mag. Carried a speed-loader for my revolvers before that.

Today I most often carry a S&W3913 with 7or 8 +1 and a spare 8rd mag..... sometimes two.

Dad was a Police officer 1937-1977 and carried a revolver and 12 spare rounds!

On rare occasions. running local errands, I'll skip the extra mag...... when I have a 15-17+1 in the gun! :)
 
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As Chief noted these are different times. I started carrying a sidearm as an Army MP in 1974 and carried spare magazines. Always carried spare ammo through a 42 year public and private law enforcement career. Continue to do so today in retirement. My wife will occasionally comment about the spare ammo on my belt or in the truck console. Of my friends that carry most don’t go to my extreme and several don’t even carry spare. I am not comforted by my states 10 round magazine restrictions.
 

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