9mm for deer ?????

[Bald1]

As I type this I'm watching "The High Road with Keith Warren". I don't really like him or his show because it always seems he's hunting in a high fence preserve. No thanks. Well today he's on a management hunt in south Texas near the coast. Him and his counter part shot 3 bucks with a Glock 34 9mm. They were yucking it up about having to shoot these deer. Almost implying a 9mm was ok because it was only a management hunt. As if genetically inferior deer don't deserve ethical treatment. Now we all know a 9mm will kill a deer just as well as it will kill a human. But his first shot was at 90 yards. Yes Nine Zero. I like that guy even less now.

 

[mauser9]

Yep sounds pretty unethical to me. Much better calibers available!

 

[6GUNSONLY]

Stupidity.

 

[rwsmith]

No thanks.....

....too much chance of wounding and not getting a clean kill.

 

[charlie sherrill]

I wouldn't use that caliber to hunt deer although I've put a few in the freezer with a .40 and a 10MM. Those were because that's all I had when I ran across a deer. We had a guy who was an 82 year old deputy. He went home one evening and a 10 point buck (we measure both sides down here) walked out in front of him as he pulled into his drive way. He did a one shot heart shot and the buck dropped like a rock. The deer retired right then, the deputy retired at 85 and passed away at 95. Even though he was working mostly as a court bailiff near the end of his career he was the oldest LEO I ever knew.

 

[Darkenfast]

The late Stephen A. Camp (career LEO, trainer, and expert on the Browning Hi-Power), used hot 9mm factory loads on a few Texas deer with success. I believe these were management hunts, but unlike the case mentioned by the OP, these deer were shot at close range from a stand. He showed the recovered bullets and discussed the damage in articles on his site, which is still up. There's a lot of common sense in his writing.

https://hipowersandhandguns.com/

 

[Valmet]

Yep sounds pretty unethical to me. Much better calibers available!

+1. With the vast array of cartridges available today, why would one choose do this?

 

[stansdds]

Can it be done? Yes. But just because you can do something does not necessarily mean you should do it. I would not go deer hunting with a 9mm unless it was the only firearm I had and I was desperate for food.

 

[Pisgah]

I hope none of you fellers ever checks real-life velocities of: 1. A 6" .357 Mag revolver, and; 2. 9mm velocity out of the long-slide G34.

Just sayin', I bet many of you naysayers would take the shot with the .357 -- and there ain't all THAT much difference...

 

[Bald1]

Pisgah we can agree to disagree on that. The average 9mm 124 gr load is 300 fps slower than an avg 357 125gr load. But I think most would agree a heavier bullet would be appropriate. 158 or 185. Muzzle energy and penetration or the big differences. Sure there are boutique loads for any cartridge but those numbers would also tilt in favor of the 357. I have in fact killed deer with my 6" 686. But definitely not at 90 yds. I would not take that shot.

 

[rockquarry]

+1. With the vast array of cartridges available today, why would one choose do this?

Strictly a stunt.

 

[Valmet]

I hope none of you fellers ever checks real-life velocities of: 1. A 6" .357 Mag revolver, and; 2. 9mm velocity out of the long-slide G34.

Just sayin', I bet many of you naysayers would take the shot with the .357 -- and there ain't all THAT much difference...

They're really is a difference. Eyeballing the 124 and 125 grain loads out of a 6" bbl. About 500 fps of difference.

 

[Bald1]

Strictly a stunt.

Makes you wonder if Glock is a sponsor or just straight up pays him to use their guns.

 

[mtgianni]

Makes you wonder if Glock is a sponsor or just straight up pays him to use their guns.

I would bet that controversy gets him followers which equals $$$.

 

[THE PILGRIM]

A while back now, there was a report of a Brit SAS Trooper taking down a terrorist at 100 yards with a HiPower.
But I can shoot my 357s better than I can my Spray and Pray Wonder 9s.
Having shot Hunter silhouette with my Model 27, that my choice.

 

[CH4]

I have myriad better choices to hunt deer.

 

[IAM Rand]

I have used a 40 to put down a moo moo cow but never for anything other than wounded animals (the moo moo fell into this category as well). X marked the spot. On a healthy animal, not a fan.

 

[CH4]

I have used a 40 to put down a moo moo cow but never for anything other than wounded animals (the moo moo fell into this category as well). X marked the spot. On a healthy animal, not a fan.

Yeah, I have effectively dispatched wounded deer with a .357 Silver Tips while on patrol - point blank in the back of the head.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

+1. With the vast array of cartridges available today, why would one choose do this?

Question to you're quote. I agree with you........So why do people shoot "em" with stick and string?

 

[Valmet]

Question to you're quote. I agree with you........So why do people shoot "em" with stick and string?

Good question? I guess because it's a more primitive weapon and therefore one needs to be more skillful? I don't now hunt at all, nor do I handgun hunt. That isn't to mean that folks shouldn't. The "smallest" caliber I've ever deer hunted with is a .270 in a .270 Weatherby Mag.