19-3 value? **Pics in post 21**

[S&W Fan]

To the experts here what would the current fair price on a high condition 4” 19-3 blue be-just the revolver? I have been offered one but neither of us are sure what a price would be, thanks.

 

[gmborkovic]

What price was quoted to you?

 

[CH4]

Out west, most would be priced between $650 to $850 with OEM targets.

 

[daveboy]

I picked up this one with three Ts a few months ago for 7 bills. It was a private transaction and buyer was asking 9.

 

[S&W Fan]

What price was quoted to you?

No price yet, we’re trying to figure what would be fair to both of us. Unlike daveboy’s it doesn’t have target hammer/trigger or red ramp/white outline though the target grips are without flaws as is the entire revolver.

 

[Hair Trigger]

5th Ed. SCSW gives these values for the M19-3 and later:

ANIB--$1200
EXC--$900
VGC--$700
GOOD--$500

Who gets to determine "high condition"? I'd think you could bargain based on the features, so no 3T would be less than 3T, Red ramp and white outline more than without, etc.

In the end, it's worth whatever you're willing to pay for it based on how bad you want it.

I gave $800 for a 1974 production 3T M19-3 with RR/WO with the original box back in 2016, and I'd call it EXC condition.

 

[SWFan27]

Out west, most would be priced between $650 to $850 with OEM targets.

In California, $900 to well over $1000.

 

[smithra_66]

It would sell for 1K easily on Gunbroker if it was in high condition.

 

[CH4]

lol
I didn't mean that far west. I am in Nevada.

 

[S&W Fan]

Thank you all very much, greatly appreciated. It’s possibly the nicest used K I’ve ever come across. Stay tuned.

 

[Marshal Tom]

Scott, $800-$850

 

[pantannojack]

I like the 7 better than the 9.

 

[stansdds]

I'd say somewhere in the $800 area.

 

[James K]

Paid $725 at local CA auction for this 19-3 several years ago. Changed out the Bill Jordan grips, however. Just too big.

 

[Engine49guy]

Just want to add afew tidbits for my fellow Model 19 enthusiasts, the 19's made prior to 1970 used the old process of pinning the front sight ramp to the barrel after it was blued or nickeled, my assumption is that pinning the ramp on after blueing removed the risk of trapping blueing salts under there that could cause finish issues later.

19-3's and above made after 1969 have the ramp as an integral part of the barrel this includes all Model 66's which were introduced just after the change.
Basicly this makes the pre 69 Model 19 more like its ancestors, the other big thing is that if you are ever lucky enough to find a nickel 19-3 made prior to 1970 it should have the old style blue ramp with proud fs pins, they exist but are not commonly encountered.
The other neat thing about the older 19-3 is that it has the old style large ampersands on the frame and the older barrel roll stamps.
When comparing a 19-3's fit n finish from say 1968 to one made in say 1974 you will notice the older ones have more attention to fit n finish and seem to be polished better, this includes the stocks from that era but is of course a generality and just IMO.
Last thing is that while the SCSW hints that the 19-4 revision was moving the gas ring from the yoke to the cylinder it makes u assume that all the old 19-3's had it on the yoke which does not appear to be true.
In comparing my own 19-3's it appears to have briefly moved from the cylinder to the yoke in the early mid 70's then moved back.
IOW the majority of 19-3's (and all previous revisions) should have the gas ring on the cylinder.
Bottom line keep your eyes peeled for nickel 19-3's with blue ramps and when cleaning your 19-3 take note if the gas ring is on the yoke or cylinder.

 

[Model29-26.5]

$750 - $1100 from what I’ve been seeing all over the net.
Depending on condition, original parts or not, what the owner has in it, what you’re willing to pay.

 

[S&W Fan]

Offer made, waiting to see if it's accepted, stay tuned.

 

[DV0]

Just want to add afew tidbits for my fellow Model 19 enthusiasts, the 19's made prior to 1970 used the old process of pinning the front sight ramp to the barrel after it was blued or nickeled, my assumption is that pinning the ramp on after blueing removed the risk of trapping blueing salts under there that could cause finish issues later.

19-3's and above made after 1969 have the ramp as an integral part of the barrel this includes all Model 66's which were introduced just after the change.
Basicly this makes the pre 69 Model 19 more like its ancestors, the other big thing is that if you are ever lucky enough to find a nickel 19-3 made prior to 1970 it should have the old style blue ramp with proud fs pins, they exist but are not commonly encountered.
The other neat thing about the older 19-3 is that it has the old style large ampersands on the frame and the older barrel roll stamps.
When comparing a 19-3's fit n finish from say 1968 to one made in say 1974 you will notice the older ones have more attention to fit n finish and seem to be polished better, this includes the stocks from that era but is of course a generality and just IMO.
Last thing is that while the SCSW hints that the 19-4 revision was moving the gas ring from the yoke to the cylinder it makes u assume that all the old 19-3's had it on the yoke which does not appear to be true.
In comparing my own 19-3's it appears to have briefly moved from the cylinder to the yoke in the early mid 70's then moved back.
IOW the majority of 19-3's (and all previous revisions) should have the gas ring on the cylinder.
Bottom line keep your eyes peeled for nickel 19-3's with blue ramps and when cleaning your 19-3 take note if the gas ring is on the yoke or cylinder.

Very informative, first thing I noticed was the finish differences in 19-3 and 19-4.
Seems the finish level has consistent differences in all eras - when looking at my 1960 ish guns as well.

 

[Hair Trigger]

Just want to add afew tidbits for my fellow Model 19 enthusiasts, the 19's made prior to 1970 used the old process of pinning the front sight ramp to the barrel after it was blued or nickeled, my assumption is that pinning the ramp on after blueing removed the risk of trapping blueing salts under there that could cause finish issues later.

19-3's and above made after 1969 have the ramp as an integral part of the barrel this includes all Model 66's which were introduced just after the change.
Basicly this makes the pre 69 Model 19 more like its ancestors, the other big thing is that if you are ever lucky enough to find a nickel 19-3 made prior to 1970 it should have the old style blue ramp with proud fs pins, they exist but are not commonly encountered.
The other neat thing about the older 19-3 is that it has the old style large ampersands on the frame and the older barrel roll stamps.
When comparing a 19-3's fit n finish from say 1968 to one made in say 1974 you will notice the older ones have more attention to fit n finish and seem to be polished better, this includes the stocks from that era but is of course a generality and just IMO.
Last thing is that while the SCSW hints that the 19-4 revision was moving the gas ring from the yoke to the cylinder it makes u assume that all the old 19-3's had it on the yoke which does not appear to be true.
In comparing my own 19-3's it appears to have briefly moved from the cylinder to the yoke in the early mid 70's then moved back.
IOW the majority of 19-3's (and all previous revisions) should have the gas ring on the cylinder.
Bottom line keep your eyes peeled for nickel 19-3's with blue ramps and when cleaning your 19-3 take note if the gas ring is on the yoke or cylinder.

The front sight post on my M19-3 is pinned in place and the SN puts it in 1974 production (7K12168). The pin is difficult to see but is definitely there.
I think the finish on M19-3 and 4 is a progressive thing; the dash-3 started in 1967 and went ten years before the dash-4 came along, Maybe the earlier guns had a nicer finish but less time was being spent per gun so maybe in addition to engineering changes to simplify production, not as much time was being spent on the finish either.

My M19-3 is early enough that it still has the gas ring on the cylinder, I think the ring was moved to the yoke very late in 1974 or sometime in 1975, and then of course was moved back to the cylinder with an engineering change to start dash-4. I've always wondered why an engineering change didn't occur when the ring was moved to the yoke. When you think about it, the M19-4 is identical to most of the M19-3 production, excepting only the last couple of years when the M19-3 had the gas ring on the yoke.

 

[Engine49guy]

To clarify the pre 1970 Model 19's had their front site " Ramp" pinned to the barrel with two pins in holes drilled through the rib ( except snubs).
The process of pinning the blade to the ramp is a seperate thing.