SAVING BROTHER AND SISTER LUDDITES SOME GRIEF

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One of the things that bugs me about computers is when new products are introduced there seems to be an absence of awareness that these products are being used by people who did not grow up with a computer in their crib. At times it will take me a half hour to figure out something that people who grew up with all of the whiz bang systems seem to know intuitively.

The odds are that over time our members will need to replace their personal computers for one reason or another. I have to replace a 7 year old computer that went kaflooey (a technical term). One of my major uses for this computer was to connect the streaming of continuing education lectures and Cleveland Browns games from the laptop computer to the big screen TV that is connected to a big stereo receiver and huge Infinity speakers. The old laptop and and TV have HDMI (trapezoidal shaped) ports and 1 cable between them provides for picture and sound on the big TV.

So I bought a new computer, same brand with twice the horsepower. It had the trapezoidal port so I inserted the cable into the port and set the TV to receive the transmission from the new laptop computer. And guess what, nothing happened. I did the same thing I had done using the old computer but the TV said it wasn't getting a signal.

So for at least the next half hour I'm going through web site after website trying to get a clue as to how to remedy this situation. After a while I came across an article, WITH PICTURES, that looked like it might address this problem. The text and pictures referred to a second output port, a USB-C (racetrack shaped) port next to a trapezoidal output port. The next picture showed an adapter with a port for the trapezoidal cable end on one end and on the other end of the adaptor was a jack to go into the racktrack output port on the computer. My computer had these same connections. Figuring that maybe I came across a solution, I printed off the pictures so I could explain the problem I was having and see if this truly was a solution.

I drove out to the Best Buy store in York, PA, explained my situation to the technician as best I could and showed him the pictures. I asked him if that store sold such an adaptor and he said it did. But then he started drifting off into the possibility I have to bring my computer in to the store. That's a 60 mile round trip. I asked what the price of the adaptor was and it seemed reasonable to me ($30+ part - about anything that works and solves your problem is reasonable to me). I then asked him what were the chances this adaptor would solve my problem and he said about 80% and I said something like "I'll take one."

After I got home, in the tradition of the old song o/" the hip bone's connected to the thigh bone o/" I connected the trapezoidal cable to the adaptor, and put the racktrack jack on the adaptor in the racktrack output port on the computer, and pulled up the "Music You Like" thread. When I set the TV on the right source, the "Music You Like" thread came up on the TV screen. Then I started the music on the post and the sound gushed forth from my big Infinity speakers.

So here it is, what to expect and what to look for on a new computer that has these types of output ports. If I can save only one of my brother or sister Luddites time and aggravation it will have been worth taking the time to set out all of this.
 
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In 1992 I sold a kidney and bought the best IBM tower I could afford. I embraced it. I became one with DOS. I studied it. I could make a sandwich during slow spooling. I spent countless nights fixated on a sea of green fonts. I loved him, hugged him and called him Pooter.

I was hooked. I bought every upgrade mod I could shove in it until it needed a bigger shell.

As the technology rapidly advanced I also advance with the learning curve. The large music retailer I worked for had just installed a store wide computer system (Mac) for POP, inventory and customer receipts storage. I embraced the Apple world with equal enthusiasm.

I recently replaced my 8 year old HD10 with a fire breathing HD11.

De-registering the old one, registering the new one and restoring all my files and apps took a whopping 30 minutes. All without the assistance of my live in 17 year old IT wizard.

I'll take all the technology this world can throw at me.
 
I bought my 88 year old mom a Windows 11 laptop. We watched movies on it till her WiFi was installed.

Took HP laptop out of box, plugged it into the wall and fired it up.

Put a HDMI cable from the laptop to the HDMI 3 port on her TV.

Turned on the TV and set input to HDMI 3.

Watched movies. Sound came thru her soundbar.
 
I just bought an older Dell 24" color monitor for essentially nothing ($7) at the local Goodwill. I have a perfectly good laptop with a non-working screen I wanted to use with it. Problem was that the monitor had only a VGA input port and the laptop does not have a VGA output port, only an HDMI port. I got on eBay to see if there was such a thing as a VGA to HDMI adaptor. Not only was there such a thing, I found there was a wide array of all kinds of port-to-port adaptors. I bought a new VGA-HDMI adaptor for an astounding $5, including shipping, and the monitor works perfectly. Goes to show that it is possible to adapt almost anything to anything else.
 
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I'm looking at the Windows 10 to 11 transition sometime soon with dread. I still haven't completely come to terms with all the wizz-bang "intuitive" features in 10. I've come to loath the creeping upgrades to whatever OS is resident.

Back before retirement, we used to war with the IT department occasionally. They'd jump on each and every new thing with massive enthusiasm. Many in the field don't realize that the vast majority of the users aren't interested/don't need or want it.

Like an earlier poster, I remember DOS. I used to be able to go in and solve problems. Not no more. Before we bought our first personal computer I read up on them. One of the authorities was complaining about the bad effect of cheap memory. Back when memory was cheap, code had to be short and concise. When memory got cheap, the code monkeys got sloppy. They even started inserting Easter Eggs into the programs to amuse each other. While sorting out a problem with a tech I had a popup of the Kilroy figure captioned "Oh bleep, we gonna die"! The tech said he'd never heard of that one.
 
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I bought my 88 year old mom a Windows 11 laptop. We watched movies on it till her WiFi was installed.

Took HP laptop out of box, plugged it into the wall and fired it up.

Put a HDMI cable from the laptop to the HDMI 3 port on her TV.

Turned on the TV and set input to HDMI 3.

Watched movies. Sound came thru her soundbar.

I had the exact same setup with my new computer with the same type of connecting cable. It worked fine with my old computer but wouldn't work with the new computer until I bought the adaptor to be able to use the other type of output port that was on my new computer. Same brand of new computer that you have with Windows 11. Nowhere was there any indication that the HDMI output port on my new computer wouldn't send the signal to the TV. I didn't have a clue until I spent a lot of time looking up stuff to find a possible solution. That's what bugs me about computers.
 
and a very polite/respectful mention of using all caps in title?
 
Knowing zero about the latest in computer ports, I had to do some research. Seems that the current state of the art computer port is the USB-C, the fastest current version being known as Thunderbolt 4. Fortunately, it's nothing that I presently need to worry about as my computers do not have USB-C ports, just USB-A and HDMI ports. I did discover that there are USB-C to HDMI adaptors available, lots of them, priced at around $10-15. So if you need to connect your laptop with a USB-C port to the HDMI port on your TV, just buy an adaptor. Similar to what I did by connecting the HDMI port on my laptop to the VGA port on my external monitor by using an adaptor. Surprising that the HDMI ports on new computers equipped with the USB-C port seem to communicate differently from HDMI ports on older computers not having the USB-C port.
 
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Not surprising at all. That's the code monkeys at work. The question is if there's a hardware/architecture need for the difference or if it's just "because we need to display a grasp of the new tech".
 
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