K22 ?

[DEF3]

Hello all, was wondering if I could get a little info on this. Its up for sale at a local lgs.
- Cylinder looks like it was out of time at some point? There are what looks like hammer marks on three of the chambers. No indication of stamps for a repair?
- checked timing-seems on to me
- S.N. K159978
- 6 groove
- love the grips, football targets- little TLC!
- so what do we have here?
- value?
- did I mention I love the grips. Other side of grips just as clean.

 

[Goony]

Circa 1952. The target stocks are of slightly later vintage.

 

[DEF3]

Thanks RK, ya I realize grips are later. This thing has been sitting at the lgs for over a year. Guess I’m trying to figure out the possible reasons for hammer strikes on the three chambers as shown in pics.

 

[22hipower]

Where I shop I wouldn't be surprised to find it tagged for $900-$1000 and perhaps buy it for $700-$900. Seems like only yesterday we could find them for $500-$600. The hammer hits on the cylinder are a little disconcerting but you indicate the timing is ok so maybe not an issue. Good luck.

Jeff
SWCA #1457

 

[AudieMurphy]

I have several K-22's and a couple have the firing pin marks also. they come from spinning the cylinder and pulling the trigger when the chamber doesn't align up. value?? I''d say about $6 bills maybe even a shade more seeing its in a store

 

[Bald1]

It’s been there a yr. Point out the hammer strikes and mismatch grips. Then offer $500

 

[DEF3]

Ya, he’s got it at 1200. Just too much. Plus the questions so to speak. Appreciate the info.

 

[bobsguns]

Thanks RK, ya I realize grips are later. This thing has been sitting at the lgs for over a year. Guess I’m trying to figure out the possible reasons for hammer strikes on the three chambers as shown in pics.

My guess is dry firing it?

 

[DEF3]

Bobguns - I was thinking the same thing. Then again why only in 3 tho

 

[AlHunt]

We've seen those cylinder dings before, usually blamed on dry firing. The dings are about where you'd expect on a rimfire. The doubled up one is a little odd.

FWIW, I've dry fired my '55 vintage K-22 with no dings.

 

[Truckman]

I’m trying to figure out the possible reasons for hammer strikes on the three chambers as shown in pics.

I've had more than one K-22 with those same marks in which the gun checked out good mechanically...Maybe it was an earlier issue with a previous owner that was resolved...I'd use it as a bargaining point and not worry about it......Ben

 

[Keith Brown]

It’s from tight chambers and/or ammunition that is a bit on the plus side of tolerance. Either one can cause the case to drag on the recoil shield, with enough drag you can fully cock the revolver but the hand will be forced past but not fully advance the cylinder. I have observed it and I did it very early on but did not pull the trigger, it was with a new model 17 about 1980. I have a near new one liner with several of those strikes, and empty it is perfectly timed.

 

[Gun Relics]

My guess is dry firing it?

Yes, rapidly dry firing it un-lubed.

Bubba looking in the mirror and saying "You talkin' to me?"

But seriously, we've seen a lot worse.

 

[Engine49guy]

$1200 is a bit steep IMO.

What are they asking for that early Model 67 no dash with Stainless rear site and target stocks underneath it ?

 

[65Whelen]

$1200 is way two much, even with the grips. No wonder it been on the shelf for a year. I paid $700 for my '53 couple years back. Beautiful gun with no odd firing pin strikes. Mine came with Magna stocks but I found a set of targets. Did I mention I love those stocks.

 

[DEF3]

The 67 is $750

 

[mtgianni]

I would lay down 7 $100 dollar bills and see how close that gets you. If he tells you he would be losing money, reply that we all make mistakes.

 

[bobsguns]

Bobguns - I was thinking the same thing. Then again why only in 3 tho

Could be the former owner was OCD & kept rolling the cylinder back to the same spot for dry firing? Could be something else entirely. But dry firing is the only thing I can think of that would make those sorts of marks.

Aside from that, I got nuttin'.

 

[USBP SW]

There is another possibility to explain the firing pin damage. Some folks love to dump oil on every moving part, including the cylinder stop. Couple that with the notoriously dirty rimfire ammo and you may find the cylinder stop function sluggish or not fully engaging. If the cylinder does not lock properly, you can have hammer falls where you don't want them.