Cobra walkie talkies

We tried them (Motorolas) on our hunting property and the best we could do was slightly more than a mile, due to terrain. Since then, we have installed a CB base station in camp, and everyone else carries "enhanced" CB hand-helds. They work far better than the others.
 
i have my ham/amateur license..as far as a HT or walkie talkie i have a 5w yaesu ft270....u can even submerge it in water,receive weather channels in addition to 2 meter...you dial in a repeater,your transmit hits the repeater say 30-40 miles away..is enhanced and you can talk many miles this way....on the ham 2 meter there are repeaters on many diff.bands and frequencies...passing the ham test is both interesting and informative....
 
Now I've read the link.
There is some good information on it, but not much. As they said the output power is pretty low and the antenna is a vital component. When you buy one of these they should tell you that you are required to have a GMRS license from the FCC to operate on every channel. Without a license you are only legal to use the FRS channels which are restricted to 1/2 watt. (While this is what a lot of cell phones operate at, they are a whole different system and can't be used for comparison.) Most people who own these operate them illegally by the way and don't get the license, that is up to the user and that's all I'm going to say about it.

As the link said, the GMRS frequencies will operate at a higher output power, and not that big of an increase, but their downfall is the antenna. To be legally sold they must have a FRS compliant antenna which is permanantly attached and most of them are pretty poor excuses for an antenna to start with. If you buy them, make sure you compare output powers listed on the package before you do.

Many of them are advertising more than 22 channels which is a lie, they are restricted on what they can use.

MURS compliant. MURS, Multiple Use Radio Service, is five channels that can be used by anyone with radios that comply with the FCC regulations. It has a maximum output limit of 2 watts but does allow removeable antennas. For some reason MURS hasn't caught on like FRS/GMRS, probably due to the advertising that made everyone think you need a lot of channels. There are a few radios being made now that are compliant in that they were made specifficly to operate on this service. Before you had to use business radios and cut the power down. These radios seem to be of better quality and cost about the middle of the FRS/GMRS price range. At least they did when I bout mine.

CB handhelds can use the full legal limit of 4watts of output power and are the best choice if power is what you want, especially with their 40 channels and removeable antennas, but they use a lot of battery power too.
 
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The radios worked very well. Granted hand held CB radios may have done just as good and been useful later. The expense account would not justify the expense of buying CB.

I was amazed at how clear the radios were from a mile away. They have have worked at greater distances but it was not needed. Now I have them, I may never need them again but the cost did not come from my pocket.

As to HAM, three of my uncles were HAM operators and they kept trying to get me into it. I even have a 5 meter and 10 meter radios one of them gave me before he passed away. He told me there was a new license that did not require a code test. I still might try one day when I am retired for the last time.
 
There are now only three license classes and none of them require morse code.
 
The radios worked very well. Granted hand held CB radios may have done just as good and been useful later. The expense account would not justify the expense of buying CB.

I was amazed at how clear the radios were from a mile away. They have have worked at greater distances but it was not needed. Now I have them, I may never need them again but the cost did not come from my pocket.

As to HAM, three of my uncles were HAM operators and they kept trying to get me into it. I even have a 5 meter and 10 meter radios one of them gave me before he passed away. He told me there was a new license that did not require a code test. I still might try one day when I am retired for the last time.


i think you will find it's six meter rather then five...no code for ham has been here since about 2007...many still enjoy it but it's not required...i have worked cb/sideband since i was a kid in the 60'shave a ton of top of the line cb equipment and many radio friends...finally last fall i decided after all this i deserved a ham license LOL...the study for it was fun...the technican license is 35 questions...you must get at least 26 correct...very easy...AARL and ebay has the technican study guide or its at hamtestonline....its very easy to talk all over the world
 
A historical side note pre WW II it was 5 meters.

The ham bands were all harmonically related. They were
160 meters
80 meters
40 meters
20 meters
10 meters
5 meters
2.5 meters and finally
1.25 meters.

Things were rearranged when amateur radio was reauthorized after the war.
 
Any VHF or UHF radio (FRS/GMRS is UHF) is basically limited to line of sight. You can Google up the formula for calculating the distance based on the height of the antenna above ground, but between handheld radios it usually comes out to about a mile in urban terrain, maybe 4 or 5 miles at best in the country and maybe a bit better over water. The only way you'll constantly get more than that is if one of the units is at high altitude...an airplane or the ISS. The advertised range on FRS units is fiction of the highest order.
 
The advertised range on FRS units is fiction of the highest order.

Very true. It is either false advertising or misleading consumers.
While they worked for what I needed, they likely would not have worked for thirty miles on a flat interstate.

I would love to know why someone would need a set of cheap radios to work for distances over a couple miles anyway. Cell phones and HAM radios would be more effective for longer distances.
 
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