Outhouse etiquette, training and rules that can save you.

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I made mention of an outhouse in another thread and after a comment or so I realized many here have never been exposed to or used an outhouse. What I took for granite is foreign to some.

Here it is with a foreword by Mr. Kasskop.

I can't believe model70hunter wrote this! :D This is so cool!

Kaaskop49
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Mr. Kaaskop;

Back then cool was reserved for winter time use.

Were you a downtown guy?

Outhouses kept one's bidness private, along with the privates private, a nickname for them was privvies.

My uncle in NW Iowa owned a large farm but lived right across the highway from town where they had indoor toilets. His outhouse had 2 seats, sort of the Caddy of it's time.

My Dad bought a 200 acre farm in 1960, it had a nice house, fully insulated and modern except no water which meant no indoor plumbing. The guy who owned the farm was rich, very rich, it was his weekend retreat. Farmers used to dump trash on their own farms, In the head of a holler he had dumped more whisky bottles and empty beer cans over the years it looked like a small mountain. It later gave me and my bro years of plinking.

Obviously he did not need water to dilute his store bought liquids. Had a nice house in town. Just a weekend warrior. He was farm raised and built a huge dairy barn thinking he would hire someone to run it which never happened. Being a farm boy from the early part of the century outhouses were probably common to him.

The farm had a house and a path as they used to say when the toilet was an outhouse.

We became accustomed to it rather quickly as mother nature rules all.

Mom demanded and got a well drilled in the 1st year. Indoor water, sinks, hot water, but Dad would not go full nelson on the toilet. Bathe and drink ice cold deep well water but if nature drew your lottery number it was the path. There was a concrete cistern that caught rainwater for washing and cooking. But one had to go work the hand pump outside.

Dad lined the interior with some triple walled waxed cardboard boxes something fancy and expensive came in, this helped in the winter. But was a little stuffy in the summer. In the summer stuff, scaly things, slithering between the wall and cardboard is concerning.

When warm the door, when open, blocked the view from the house. The "pathroom" was in the barnyard about 30 yards from the house. In the summer while sweating and working in there it was common for a horse to stick his head in to beg for treats or a friendly cow to pop her head in to say high. Luckily the bulls were never a problem.

One had to hold the door open with a foot as it had a stout door spring on it and would slam shut hard.

Just like the US Mail, neither rain, sleet, hail nor snow kept us from the trip.

Outhouse etiquette; yell hallo to the outhouse while walking up and before opening the door, knock.

Make sure there are catalogs in place incase TP runs out.

The slick pages are not as user friendly as pulp type paper in magazine or cheap catalogs.

Never grab any mail if a paper emergency arises. And If you do make sure it did not say IRS or the like to Dad on it. Someone digs it out while Dad supervises. This is one reason it was good to learn to read early in life.

Dad always lifted the trapdoor and dug it out each spring putting it on the lower compost pile.

Other living creatures and you share this area;
Spiders, wasps (more on this later), bees, horse flies, lizards, snakes and after dark unknown things that go bump.

Anyone who grew up using an outhouse is already SWAT trained;
Open the door easy and quietly, with your eyes sweep what you can see and as you open the door fully sweep the rest of the room.

You are looking for snakes.
Move part way into the "house" and look in all corners as your eyes get accustomed to the dark. DO NOT FORGET TO LET YOUR EYES ADJUST before the final sweep!

Next take a deep breath and look into the hole, again snakes, spiders and lizards are on the watch list. You may only see a small non-moving body part so take immediate action. No shotguns. 22 LR is ok.

When all is secure, look one more time at the seat which is usually hand carved out of native trees, Oak in our case, it is 10 times warmer than plastic.

If the seat is clear, turn, quickly drop the garments to your knees only and sit. If one allows the garment to go clear to the ankles there may be undue stress placed on the ankles in an emergency.

Follow up on wasps; an untrained rookie from earlier in his outhouse career.

I'm sure some of you think, what? An outhouse when u're pointed to the unpainted building in the barnyard. If the call is of an urgent nature you might just go over and in, sit and contemplate.

Just wandering into a combat zone will get cha bub.

As an untrained rookie when young I just ambled over, in and did the sit. On the seat were two large Red Wasps. they have zero tolerance for being sat on, they have extra painful poison and one sooner than immediately feels the pain.

If you were following the procedure for dropping garments to the knees you will see why, I screamed, leaped through the door still screaming and in two steps had run out of my garments. I sprinted across the yard and there were only a couple of relatives to laugh at my 8 year old screaming self.

Amazingly, it does not matter how fast one can run the pain is stuck to your rear urging you to run faster. If on the interstate one might blow the doors off 18 wheelers or so it seems as the wind whistles in your ears.

Ok refresher, any questions about to the knees only? Good.

Think we are finished?

When leaving do not put a foot down to the ground immediately at the threshold, why? Snakes, they love lizards and other (house brand) items, you may have skeered it out of the house when you went in or they just came by looking for a sunning lizard. If you don't know, snakes sort of squish funny under your foot, do severe thrashing, and even a non poisonous snake will bite and get all ticked off. Peek over and down in front in the area hidden by the threshold, then take a long quick 2 steps.

When you cased your exit you also should have looked at where your 2 quick steps are going to be. This is an active barnyard, cows hang around the front of the outhouse, but never go in, yep cow patties in the path. If you go after dark, take a flashlight and memorize patty drops as you go in.

Wampus kitties and such;

If you are a slicker in the wilderness there are a few bump in the night things. The first time a Bobcat female of the species goes into the i'm in heat bloody scream close by call, usually the rear of the building, do not forget the garment to the knee rule. Some here have heard a Bobcat and some out West have perhaps heard a Mountain lion female scream.

In the Ozark mountains they start right at dark, a second or 2 after it is completely dark. The scream sounds like a large lunged woman being skinned alive, really, your hair stands on end, your steps get much quicker and the gun you've been hunting with seems warmer to the touch. IT IS LOUD!

So if she is looking for a Tom Bob and dinner they may be skirting the edge of the barn yard.

Bet you did not check for snakes nor cow patties when you jumped and ran did you? When you slow down, man up, go back and do the paper work, you'll thank yourself later. The 2nd time you only jump out the door, by the 3rd time you just yell shut up, like a city guy to a neighbor.

Almost forgot, use a catalog page the run around the bottom of the seat before the sit. Lizards can and will crawl across something upside down. When this happens your vertacle leap is only controlled by the ceiling of the outhouse. And you are slapping your rear or worse all the way up and down thinking the worst.

Now, shut the door and wait your turn, go get me a catalog, I'm busy.
 
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We lived in the burbs back in the 50s,but a number of pops friends lived out in the country where most folks still had outhouses.I was 4 or 5,we were visiting a friend in an old mining town and I needed to go! I was a little baffled when I was directed out the back door and up the hill.It was a two holer [emoji33][emoji1]
 
Thank you hangnoose, people look at me like I'm nuts when I mention the basket of corncobs in the ol' two holer.
As a younker I was raised by G'parents in rural North Carolina [mid through late 1940s].
My Grand Dad worked on the railroad for 45 years or so, and finally put water in the house in 1968 after he retired. Nick
 
My great aunt, from her own personal experience, suggested that if you have false teeth, never bend over and sneeze toward the seat. Not only did great uncle have to retrieve the teeth but, the fact that she boiled the teeth and continued to "wear" them until her dying day always bothered me.

Especially when she insisted to kissing us the cheek at reunions!

I also learned, while visiting, that one was never to "set off" fireworks" in the vicinity of the out house no matter what holiday was being celebrated!
 
I remember my first exposure-a two seater in Nebraska. Out behind a gas station . I was 7. Was not impressed. Asked my grandfather if where we were going had them ( a relative in Minnesota) and he responded "Yea but WE have a two seater! :eek: thank gawd he was teasing me :D
 
I've had only one "bad" experience in an outhouse. Went to a rifle match near Albany NY. They were way out in the country and only had outhouses. You just couldn't avoid using one since you were there all day. I had to give in to relieve a full bladder. I stepped in, closed the door and was greeted by a number of yellow jackets. I did not get stung but was extremely nervous watching them buzzing around my "business". Needless to say, I avoided going in again and waited till I got back to the motel.

On another camping trip I was forced to use one near a campground in the Grand Canyon. A total different experience since it was freezing cold and I was thankful for the wooden seat. No critters but I did see a skunk in the area, not anywhere near the outhouse.

One big question I have is, why a two holer? Would you really want to share the experience. I realize that was the norm way back when but why?
 
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The problem with the 2 holes is the winter wind. You really want to close off one hole with a seat or a board, before covering the other with your back side. Otherwise you will learn the definition of "wind chill". Wind burned cheeks, and nobody wants to rub in ointment.
 
Onliest time I ever used an outhouse was at Boy Scout Summer Camp. This was a shelter, maybe ten by ten. Had a concrete floor, two holes, and a large funnel attached to a hose, in the corner. The hose led down into whatever was below the two holes. 'Twas a urinal, so three boys could use the place at the same time.

One of the daily jobs at the camp, was cleaning the outhouse. This involved sweeping, then mopping, the concrete floor, and wiping down the seats with "pure pine oil" - Pine Sol on steroids.

One day the young gentleman whose job it was that day decided he did not like the aroma arising from the urinal, and poured a cup or so of pine oil into said receptacle. AND, since the hose led to the area under the seat, this pine oil ended up down there.

The critters living down there did not approve. And they all came boiling up from under the seat lids - beetles, cockroaches, centipedes. Critters everwhere. It was purty disgusting for a while.

And our Scoutmaster had to give instructions on what you could, and could not, put in the urinal.
 
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I've had only one "bad" experience in an outhouse. Went to a rifle match near Albany NY. They were way out in the country and only had outhouses. You just couldn't avoid using one since you were there all day. I had to give in to relieve a full bladder. I stepped in, closed the door and was greeted by a number of yellow jackets. I did not get stung but was extremely nervous watching them buzzing around my "business". Needless to say, I avoided going in again and waited till I got back to the motel.

On another camping trip I was forced to use one near a campground in the Grand Canyon. A total different experience since it was freezing cold and I was thankful for the wooden seat. No critters but I did see a skunk in the area, not anywhere near the outhouse.

One big question I have is, why a two holer? Would you really want to share the experience. I realize that was the norm way back when but why?

Would that happen to be the Forbs club.:D



The weekend camp down the road still has a outhouse, but it has not been used in over 30 years to the best of my knowledge. They upgraded to a "simple styptic" under their camp. A 55 gallon barrel, a piece of pipe from the toilet and some weep-holes in the side of the barrel. Flushed with a pail of water.:)

They got nailed with "simple septic" a few years ago and as they now had a well put in a legal styptic system.:D
 
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I'm an olde guy so experienced with outhouses. When I moved to Indian Country found that they are still common here. Many of the Navajo outhouses don't have doors - Three sided. When you're seated you are facing away from the house and have a most incredible scenic view, and the air is fresher, and critters are less likely to find refuge. A long roof overhangs the open side for foul weather. Pretty ingenious.
 
Lotsa memories of the outhouse. They were very common in my younger years. The two holer's many times had an adult sized hole and a smaller one for the little folks. We never had one, and we never had one with a seat beyond the pine boards with the hole in it, although I have seen and used some with an actual toilet seat. Had outhouses at home, at school, and at the church building.

We lived where water was very scarce. Even after we got indoor plumbing, it was basically for the wimmenfok to use. Even then, the rule was: If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown, flush it down! All the male folks were required to use the outhouse for a long time year round even after we got indoor plumbing. I got my butt whupped when I was caught peeing out through a bedroom window screen in the winter time instead of going to the outhouse to do it. When I was really small, I wandered inside the outhouse on my own one summer day. I crawled up on the seat to look into the hole. After determining that there was nothing down there worth further investigation, I stood up. I spotted a dirt dobber mud nest up on the wall and was trying to reach it to see what it was about. Yep, stepped off into the adult sized hole and fell in! Set up a holler till my mom heard me and came to see what was going on. She wouldn't touch me, but rounded up my dad to fish me out. I was wearing little overalls so he caught one of the straps and lifted me out, held me at arms length, carried me to the drinking tub for the livestock and tossed me in. He and mom were standing there debating about which one was gonna scrub off what I had collected over the bottom half of my body. My dad said he didn't know if I was worth cleaning up and keeping! Mom finally made me undress in the water trough and washed me off, then took me buck nekkid to the windmill and filled a galvanized wash tub with water (cold!) out of the barrel at the end of the discharge pipe (overflow from the barrel ran into the water trough) added some soap and disinfectant to the wash tub and thoroughly scrubbed me off, then took me out and poured clean water over me to rinse me off. Needless to say, this is a memory that has remained very vivid in my mind for nearly 70 years. The story was also told widely and soon nearly every one in the whole county was aware of my "adventure". All were either mortified (mostly wimmenfolk) or highly amused (mostly menfolk, a few of the wimmen, and most of the kids). I was just glad my dad decided to keep me around. Was not ever really sure whether he was serious about that or not. I was never really comfortable when it was necessary for me to sit over that adult sized hole until my butt got big enough to touch the wood all around!

Fortunately, for most of my life I have lived in a place where a guy could go outside to pee without getting arrested for indecent exposure. Even after our outhouse was finally retired from use, the guys were still expected to do their peeing outside well away from the house. It became a habit that has not been broken to this day. When my folks retired off the farm and moved to town, my dad continued to do that business outside, not because there was a scarcity of water, but because it cost money to buy the water necessary to flush the toilet and mom wouldn't put up with pee left in the toilet until somebody deposited a brown load there and flushed it.

We also used white lime to cover the pile in the hole, but never cleaned out the hole. We just dug another hole close by, set the outhouse over the new hole, then filled the old hole up with the dirt that came out of the new hole. After a rain, the dirt would settle and we would put the remaining dirt on top of the dirt that settled and that made it generally safe to walk over the old spot. When I got big enough to do it, digging the new hole became one of my jobs, especially when I had done something that required some punitive remediation. Same thing when a new cesspool hole had to be dug, and those were much larger holes. There were few rocks in the soil, but it was still hard digging, so those memories are still vivid in my mind today. The various things used for butt wipe as well as the wasps and other critters we had to deal with in and around the outhouse are also part of those memories, along with the smell inside the outhouse on hot summer days. Oh, the good old days and the memories of them!
 

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