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I think Chester said here: He's dead Mr. Dillon.
Well, NO DUH!!!
Dillon didnt say anything or even look at Chester--just walks away.
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Been watching the first season of a four season set of Gunsmoke. A few things of interest.
1) Its original working title-never used here as far as im aware of? was: Gun Law. However-that title was used at the original title when shown in Europe. I have seen season 1 before--about a year or so ago, but have noticed many new things in many episodes this time round.
First, I know that writing was much simplar for Tv back then but notice in every episode-or almost every episode so far--that people are stupid enough to tell Dillon that they are either "out to gun him down" or out to kill someone else. I know if you told that to any LE personnel these days--you wouldnt be allowed to go free and still packing any heat. Anyway, some of the stories were really "simple" for lack of a better word just now.
I like that at the beginning of most episodes-it starts out with Dillon on "Boot Hill" reflecting on how many of its "residents" arrved at Boot Hill. In many stories--Dillon really has nothing to go on-and cant arrest someone for a killing or other. However, I like how he finally uses common-sense when coming to the conclusion of something that helps in his making an arrest--or a "needed killin."
Ive been studying Doc (Milburn Stone) and his attitude towards things. He seems almost pissed-off most of the time. Doc is a poor sport when it comes to losing at cards-or checkers. He will throw a tantrum and knock the pieces off the board or table. Just when you think you might not be able to stand Doc's company, he comes around a bit and softens up.
Miss Kitty. I noticed when she first had a "mole" it appeared on her left cheek. Recently its been on her right cheek.
Just saw the episode with Leo Gordon. Gordon indeed wears the same outfit as shown in the opening "gunfight" and imdb is wrong on who it is that Dillon is going against. The character gets shot twice.
The Charles Bronson episode--where he playes a cowardly ambusher-back-shooter called: Crego, was an excellent episode. For the first time, Dillon goads someone (Crego) into going for his gun. As he knows Crego is a back-shooter-already instructing his "Deputy" Chester, to stand by the door and react when Crego goes for his gun when Dillon turns his back on him. Dillon admitted to Cregos face that "he needs killin." Crego however doesn't want to face Dillon like a man, so takes off his gunbelt and lays it on the table. However, Dillon tells him no matter what? he's going to die that night (not those exact words-but I dont really want to spoil it for you)
Chester: If I recall? I THINK somewhere in season 1, you learn why he limps with right leg being messed up. Im still trying to find out why he never wears a handgun? and only carries a rifle when Dillon gives one to him-or he takes itoff an arrested person. I am beginning to get annoyed with Chester always calling Dillon: "Mr. Dillon" instead of Marshal or boss or whatever?
Apparantly at least the first four seasons are only 30 minute long episodes. I wonder when they made this into an hour-long show??
Wanted posters inside of and outside Dillon's office. They used real names on the poster-like William Bonney and Black Bart. Its kind of interesting when you can see enough of the posters to actually read. One of them I THINK also mentioned: The Ringo Kid. 
The "city of" Dodge as seen from "Boot Hill" is a nice B&W painting or inking. Ive seen several of the grave markers-probably made out of styrofoam or balsa wood--swaying in the breeze as the Marshal reflects on somehting.
One of the script-writers was none other than Sam Peckinpah. Every story in whatever TV series it was in-that ive seen written by him--was excellent.
I noticed another "link" to John Wayne movies-in particular (again) Stagecoach. The music used in Stagecoach--where appropriate and used showing the stagecoach--is also used in episodes of Gunsmoke-in scenes showing the arrival of a stagecoach.
Anyone else have something I missed so far?
Almost forgot. Chester has a brother by the name of Magnus--who is a chatacter in himself.
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Ever notice how often Marshal Dillon gets shot in the left arm or left shoulder? Most of the rest of the time it's a head wound. Great fun. And Miss Kitty is still looking fine on Gunsmoke Internet reruns.
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Ever notice how often Marshal Dillon gets shot in the left arm or left shoulder? Most of the rest of the time it's a head wound. Great fun. And Miss Kitty is still looking fine on Gunsmoke Internet reruns.
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In 1955-56--Miss Kitty was absolutely beautiful--moving mole or not?
Miss Kitty Russell without mole.
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Tis true. I cant remember who played Miss Kitty? Mighta been Noel Neil or Phyllis Coats????
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I remember reading that John Wayne was supposed to play Matt Dillon but He was busy on another project so He suggested His Friend James Arness and the rest is History.
Festus Hagan always called Doc a ornery old Scutter, I guess that must have been the word for curmudgeon back in those days.
I did some research and Chester(Dennis Weaver) was just fooling around in front of the Director and was limping so They put the limp in the Show,They explained the limp as Chester was a wounded Confederate Soldier.I also read that if You really pay attention to the show You can see Chester forget what Leg is bad and limp on the wrong one.
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I also noticed how many times Clint Eastwood got konked as Rowdy. I guess Dillon has a thick shouldrr, and Rowdy a thick skull?
In 1955-56--Miss Kitty was absolutely beautiful--moving mole or not?
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Wikipedia said: Amanda Blake (February 20, 1929 – August 16, 1989) was an American actress best known for the role of the red-haired saloon proprietress "Miss Kitty Russell" on the television western Gunsmoke.
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That probably in-advertently explains why he rarely carried a gun on the show.
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I saw Milburn Saturday night on an old movie on ME TV called Captive Wild Woman(1943). He was animal trainer in it and his in the cage action shots were actually Clyde Beatty (of Clyde Beatty's Circus) as his double.
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My grandad went to the same school as Milburn Stone in Burrton Kansas which is a small farming community with significant oil fields discovered in the area just after WW1. They graduated from high school the same year in the early 20's. My grandad, a farmer, could also be a curmudgeon at times. Grandad didn't talk much about Stone but I think he envied his celebrity success.
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I have the first 10 seasons of Gunsmoke DVDs and am working my way through them. The shows are half-hour for the first 6 seasons. I have noticed that Matt almost always kills at least one guy in the half-hour shows. Oddly, the character development is minimal in the short shows and somewhat over done in the hour long versions. Matt doesn't always kill people in every long show. It is fun to spot all the actors who eventually had their own shows. FYI....Chester was in the Confederate army...and is the only character who drawls.
My Dad and I used to listen to the radio Gunsmoke while working in the barn. William Conrad voiced Matt(a rotund fellow who had several TV shows of his own) and Parley Baer voiced Chester. Kitty was clearly a Ho and Doc was an alcoholic.
Some of the DVDs have a sampling of commercials. The two products mentioned are L&M cigs which Matt puffs on and Remington electric shavers.
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And Dillon I think, was played by the guy who was in the Cannon tv series. Something? Conrad.
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Geeze ... sounds like the Lois Lane gals that vied for Superman's attention in the old Superman serials.
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Both Lois's did tons of "B" movies as well as western tv series roles. Both were in Tombstone Territory, The Rifleman, Rawhide but so far, I havent seen either appear in Gunsmoke--but im only on disc 1 of season 2 now. 18 more seasons to go.
A correction/update. I gave now seen Phyllis Coates in an episode. Dont remember her role? but probably a barfly.
Not Gunsmoke but, it'll have to do:
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I saw Milburn Saturday night on an old movie on ME TV called Captive Wild Woman(1943). He was animal trainer in it and his in the cage action shots were actually Clyde Beatty (of Clyde Beatty's Circus) as his double.
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He's great in a very rarely aired movie--as a trooper-in: The Savage-with Charlton Heston as a captive white who was raised by the Indians. He is supposed to lead the cavalry into an ambush, but changes sides at the last moment.
Milburn Stone is the corporal.
Stone was also Heston's sidekick in another excellent movie: Arrowhead:
On Chester, a season 2 episode confirmed he was in the yankee military--not Confederate. He mentions serving with a yank sergeant who is stationed at some nearby fort.
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I have the first 10 seasons of Gunsmoke DVDs and am working my way through them. The shows are half-hour for the first 6 seasons. I have noticed that Matt almost always kills at least one guy in the half-hour shows. Oddly, the character development is minimal in the short shows and somewhat over done in the hour long versions. Matt doesn't always kill people in every long show. It is fun to spot all the actors who eventually had their own shows. FYI....Chester was in the Confederate army...and is the only character who drawls.
My Dad and I used to listen to the radio Gunsmoke while working in the barn. William Conrad voiced Matt(a rotund fellow who had several TV shows of his own) and Parley Baer voiced Chester. Kitty was clearly a Ho and Doc was an alcoholic.
Some of the DVDs have a sampling of commercials. The two products mentioned are L&M cigs which Matt puffs on and Remington electric shavers.
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That's interesting and muchos gracias. Ill be collecting seasons up to about 15 seasons--eventually. Ill have to rewatch a disc 1 season 2 episode because-Chester mentioned being a yankee and serving with the guy who was Mess Sergeant at the nearby Fort. Ill see if I misheard, but dont think so. Maybe Chester was an ex-Confederate who did post CW duty as a yank?
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Both Lois's did tons of "B" movies as well as western tv series roles. Both were in Tombstone Territory, The Rifleman, Rawhide but so far, I havent seen either appear in Gunsmoke--but im only on disc 1 of season 2 now. 18 more seasons to go. |
Not to go way off subject but I have an old WWII every girlie deck of cards with Betty White topless. Deck named "Models of all Nations" 1940s or early 1950s. She used to be a dish.
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I HAD a few singles from that set but they disappeared about 30 years ago. Those were/are hard to come by. I had maybe 4-5?? and I cant remember the names of the ones I had.
Speaking also of Gunsmoke--there is a series of collector cards out made by someone in England.
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Some of my favorite villains so far from Gunsmoke:
First while thinking of it--vintage collector cards:
Lee Van Cleef:
Pat Conway: Cant find an image of him in Gunsmoke-but this is close
Charles Bronson as Crego-the first man Dillon desperately wanted to kill:
Chris Alcade:
Leo Gordon:
Claude Akins: There doesnt seem to be an image of him in season 1, but this is close:
Ive forgotten the names of a few who made great bad guys-that ive seen in season 1. Not listing others till I see them.
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Ill add a few more bad guys when I can? These will include: K.L. Smith and Mort Mills. Btw, confirmed in a season 2 episode--Chester served first as a CONFEDERATE--SERVING as a cook with them in surrounded Petersburg? or some burg. Then after the war--served briefly as a cook for the Yanks.
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When I was growing up, all we had was a black and white TV. In fact I thought WWII was fought in black and white. 
Was Gunsmoke ever shot in color?
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I dont know how many seasons were in color? but at least several were. It was on TV from 55-75. I only ever saw color episodes and never any B&W till I purchased season 1-about a year ago-and the 4 season set from last month. I HOPE, they will have another 4 season set-seasons 5-8?
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Never liked Dennis weaver. Not only did not like him in G'smoke but in anything he played in. My Fav. characters were and still are Doc, Festus, and Sam the bartender. There were a few episodes where Pat Hengle
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... There were a few episodes where Pat Hengle played the Dr. Don't know why Milburn Stone didn't appear.
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Amanda Blake quit after 19 years. So technically, James Arness was the only one who was with the show its entire run.
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Never liked Dennis weaver. Not only did not like him in G'smoke but in anything he played in. My Fav. characters were and still are Doc, Festus, and Sam the bartender. There were a few episodes where Pat Hengle
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We always laughed at the mountains in the distance. Dodge City is way, way, way far from the mountains. It's pretty darn flat there.
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Claude Akins and Harry-Dean Stanton made for a great duo of bad guys. Just saw them in a season 4 epoisode last night. More who made great baddies:
K.L.Smith--you will easily recognize him: Not a great image but it'll have to do:
But my favorite western tv series baddie goes to: Mort Mills:
Deforest Kelley is the alternate favoriye baddie:
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Ive forgotten what else I wanted to mention about Gunsmoke? but it was good info.
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but one of the grave markers when Matt is walking around Boot Hill has the date (IIRC) 1882 on it. I seem to remember reading somewhere Boot Hill closed in 1879 when the city cemetery opened.
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I didn't read all the posts to see if it was already mentioned, but in real life Arness had part of his foot shot off in WWII. He actually had a limp and couldn't walk a lot without pain. He spent 18 months in military hospitals before being discharged.
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I think you meant William?
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...always wanted to see Matt Dillon's arms...after being shot in the arm once a week for twenty years...they had to be a sight...
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but one of the grave markers when Matt is walking around Boot Hill has the date (IIRC) 1882 on it. I seem to remember reading somewhere Boot Hill closed in 1879 when the city cemetery opened.
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Different boot hill-from Tombstone's Boot Hill. I think most "wild" west towns had their own "Boot Hills.?"
THIS is probably the "Boot Hill" yer thinkin of? I was there in 81-before the markers needin restorin.
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In a way related to Rbt. Conrad and The Wild Wild West/Gunsmoke. His partner in TWWW, was in a season 4 episode of Gunsmoke--which I just watched last night.
Not the Gunsmoke image, but close enough-minus he'd be in a B&W episode:
Just found this one to be exact: He played a gambler:
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The bad guy is inflicted with a fatal wound, but the hero is always 'winged'.
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Matt was too late.....
I remember one episode where the guy was hired to make nitroglycerin. Matt was whipping his horse trying to get there but he was too late and saw the smoke cloud over thie hill. They used that scene of him whipping his horse in the opening credits.
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...always wanted to see Matt Dillon's arms...after being shot in the arm once a week for twenty years...they had to be a sight...
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Me too but I guess they are just those famous Monty Python "mere flesh wounds".
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...how in the heck did Matt Dillon quick draw with that 7 1/2 inch barrel?...
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...how in the heck did Matt Dillon quick draw with that 7 1/2 inch barrel?...
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Probably practice, longer arms? greased holster? Just saw an episode where he seemed lightning quick--which I saw last night. Also, dunno if his name is familiar to most or not? but- Simon Oakland was a minor bad guy in a great episode also from last night. I thimnk he had the potentiqal to be one of the best baddies on the series.
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...how in the heck did Matt Dillon quick draw with that 7 1/2 inch barrel?...
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In the opening showdown sequence, you hear a shot before Matt gets one off. I think the idea was that the 7-1/2 Colt wasn't as fast but was a lot more accurate.
Paladin also favored the longer barrel. Those guys must have known something or they wouldn't have been on TV, right?
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are not long barrels period authentic?
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