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Hi:
Been viewing "Blue Heelers" TV Series on "YouTube".
Issue service weapons are S&W M10 4" HBs and one S&W M19 2.5".
Aussie Cops go to and from work in uniform but not armed.
Coming on duty, a revolver is issued from a office safe and turned in at end of shift. Appears they carry a single one speed loader pouch on their equipment belt ?
Question: when the revolvers are taken from the office safe, the cylinder is opened. Officer looks at the cylinder and closes and holsters. I can not see if the revolver is loaded or not ?
Opinions ??

Jimmy
 
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Sometimes they are, sometimes they go in empty. I put that down to continuity. Maggie appeared to have a RB J frame in episode 7 but it could have been the Model 19. Lately they all are wearing the Model 10 SB. We just finished episode 33 last night. We will get through 42 today probably.

How many seasons are on youtube now.

They also sign a roster when getting or turning in their guns. I notice they have to return to the station get their gear and then respond to the incident. In the show where the young girl shot the intruder with an AK? Wayne responded directly as he was the jail keeper. Maggie and Nick went to the station and geared up.

We enjoy the show but didn't think much of their anti gun writing.
 
I'm on Season 1, episode 16. I, too, was puzzled as to whether they were loading the guns on receiving them. You are correct about the types.

If you watch Lisa McCune's later series, "Sea Patrol", look for CZ-85's standing in for Browning 9mm's.

I haven't so far seen as much anti-gun propaganda as expected, given that it's TV and Aussie TV, at that. Maybe it gets worse as the show progresses. ?? I'd say that most cop shows set in New York are worse about gun bashing.

I'm watching, on average, two episodes a day. I think there are 12 seasons on YouTube.

Oh: one visiting detective had a snub M-36 S&W. What I have not seen that was expected was the sq. butt M-10 with semi-heavy bbl. in three-inch. I know Victoria state issued them, but may have also had other types. Maybe the arms varied by the station?

Could be that the three-inchers were used a lot in Melbourne and more rural cities had a jumble of other models?

On the other hand, I've seen pics of those three-inch guns in use as far back as 1975. The show ran from 1995-2006, I think. Maybe the models issued had changed.

I do like this series. The cops are a basically good lot, although I wouldn't trust P.J. with my daughter. Or any other woman, married or not.

Overall, I like Maggie Doyle best and the Pattersons. The corporal is basically okay, but wound just a little tight.

Oh: a pro-gun touch was when we saw that the pub owner sleeps with a shotgun under her bed. I thought that was a positive note.

I was baffled to find the station closes at night. No night shift, even if they have crims in the cells. If one had a medical emergency, wouldn't they be sued? And Wayne Patterson seems to answer a lot of calls at home at night, from citizens. I'd think that crime at night would be more active; need at least two patrols on duty.
 
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In the episode I spoke of above we were surprised that even if you see an intruder in your home you still cannot just shoot him/her. Even if you think they are armed.

Don't know if that's the law there or just the writer.

Other than that show I haven't seen any "obvious" anti-gun drivel.
 
Now that I think about it, I believe that I read that cops in some states there are carrying guns more routinely and may be taking them home. They've had some terrorist attacks that seem to have opened their eyes about reality. Don't know if any carry off-duty. They usually don't in most Euro countries.

Even the UK has added 600 armed officers this week after the latest stabbings, which included an American victim, the wife of a visiting US professor. These 600 additional armed bobbies are in London alone.

When I was stationed in Canada years ago, the RCMP in our rural town in Nfld. often went unarmed. I bet they don't do that anymore.
 
Targets Guy said:
In the episode I spoke of above we were surprised that even if you see an intruder in your home you still cannot just shoot him/her. Even if you think they are armed.

Don't know if that's the law there or just the writer.

Other than that show I haven't seen any "obvious" anti-gun drivel.
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I doubt it's just the writers. I think you have to prove being in imminent danger of death. The intruder probably has to shoot first.

They surely don't have Castle Doctrine law like my state does in the USA.

I think South Africa is probably the only other English-speaking nation where you'd probably have some latitude in facing an armed intruder. Even there, you need to use some common sense. Oscar Pistorious would have still been in a mess if he'd shot an intruder, as he claimed he thought he was when he killed his GF in the loo. A burglar who fled and locked himself in there probably couldn't be shot through the door. Pistorious should have just guarded the john and called the cops or his neighborhood security.

Of course, in that case, he KNEW it was Reeva Steenkamp in there, I think. And I think she ran in there and locked the door after he hit her with that bloody cricket bat the cops found on the floor of their bedroom. Bats don't bleed on their own... I think that was a crime of passion, after they argued over something that I don't have time to go into.

But if he really thought he could get away with shooting an actual intruder in the bathroom, they must be pretty liberal about defending one's home. And concealed carry is legal. I suspect that shooting a would-be armed carjacker isn't much of a problem.

We have members in both Australia and South Africa. Maybe they'll see this and let us know what's the case in both countries. The UK is pretty much a loss, defense-wise. A danged nanny state, where you have to fear the government as well as the crooks! And the terrorists...
 
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I'm on Season 1, episode 16. I, too, was puzzled as to whether they were loading the guns on receiving them. You are correct about the types.

If you watch Lisa McCune's later series, "Sea Patrol", look for CZ-85's standing in for Browning 9mm's.

I haven't so far seen as much anti-gun propaganda as expected, given that it's TV and Aussie TV, at that. Maybe it gets worse as the show progresses. ?? I'd say that most cop shows set in New York are worse about gun bashing.

I'm watching, on average, two episodes a day. I think there are 12 seasons on YouTube.

Oh: one visiting detective had a snub M-36 S&W. What I have not seen that was expected was the sq. butt M-10 with semi-heavy bbl. in three-inch. I know Victoria state issued them, but may have also had other types. Maybe the arms varied by the station?

Could be that the three-inchers were used a lot in Melbourne and more rural cities had a jumble of other models?

On the other hand, I've seen pics of those three-inch guns in use as far back as 1975. The show ran from 1995-2006, I think. Maybe the models issued had changed.

I do like this series. The cops are a basically good lot, although I wouldn't trust P.J. with my daughter. Or any other woman, married or not.

Overall, I like Maggie Doyle best and the Pattersons. The corporal is basically okay, but wound just a little tight.

Oh: a pro-gun touch was when we saw that the pub owner sleeps with a shotgun under her bed. I thought that was a positive note.

I was baffled to find the station closes at night. No night shift, even if they have crims in the cells. If one had a medical emergency, wouldn't they be sued? And Wayne Patterson seems to answer a lot of calls at home at night, from citizens. I'd think that crime at night would be more active; need at least two patrols on duty.
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In Wyoming (USA) Longmire and three Deputies plus one Secretary/Dispatcher works day shift and goes home at night ??

In real life a large city P.D. near me closed at 5pm and just comm center deep inside the building was manned. A spouse trying to escape from a husband armed with a handgun drove to this P.D. front door and was beating on it without getting assistance from inside when her husband drove up and shot/killed her while she was still hammering on the main entrance of the P.D.
 
In the series they are on call. Wayne was the jail keeper and took calls. In one show I heard them talking about dialing 000. I took that to be like our 911.
 
Another story from the past:
Van Buren, Arkansas 1966
County Jail-Unmanned after the dinner hour even with prisoners in the cells. Sheriff or Deputy came on at 7am.
I shuddered thinking if a fire broke out with prisoners locked up in cells or if prisoner's friends came and broke open the jail
 
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This episode has firearms qualifications as a major part of the episode.

Look on the range and you'll see a stainless M-64 or 65 among the blued M-10's and one blue M-19.
And you'll see some really bad shooting, too.

As for the cuffs used on a violent pro athlete having a meltdown, I couldn't tell if they 're the sort that Pete in Perth started a topic about.
 
Texas Star said:
Now that I think about it, I believe that I read that cops in some states there are carrying guns more routinely and may be taking them home. They've had some terrorist attacks that seem to have opened their eyes about reality. Don't know if any carry off-duty. They usually don't in most Euro countries.

Even the UK has added 600 armed officers this week after the latest stabbings, which included an American victim, the wife of a visiting US professor. These 600 additional armed bobbies are in London alone.

When I was stationed in Canada years ago, the RCMP in our rural town in Nfld. often went unarmed. I bet they don't do that anymore.
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In France, most cops are not "gun enthusiasts", and don't carry their duty gun off duty...that said , with the recent evens, it change a little bit, but even if they go home with their guns, most are not real "shooter" and don't have the ad hoc training...no kidding. Those i know, are guns' owners and train a lot, and carry off duty...even with their private handgun (normally prohibited now, but authorized years ago !).
R.
 
patvince said:
In France, most cops are not "gun enthusiasts", and don't carry their duty gun off duty...that said , with the recent evens, it change a little bit, but even if they go home with their guns, most are not real "shooter" and don't have the ad hoc training...no kidding. Those i know, are guns' owners and train a lot, and carry off duty...even with their private handgun (normally prohibited now, but authorized years ago !).
R.
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Patvince-

Most cops here aren't enthusiasts, either. Many regard the gun as just a tool. Many seldom take them out of the holster.

Someone posted here yesterday about one cop who found a spider web in his Glock 17, with a spider in it! Fortunately, others are much more careful and maintain their guns well and shoot even when they don't have to. Others hate going to the range. They fear they may not shoot well, or just want to be doing other things, especially if they have families.

My brother's stepdaughter is a cop in a suburb here, and shoots well. She carries a Glock of some sort, with a G-26 as backup. My brother bought her the guns, the sort she wanted. I think her force may require Glocks.
 
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