John Wayne's "True Grit" or Jeff Bridges' Version, Which Do You Like Better?

The "original" 1960 Magnificent Seven was a remake.

The first one was Seven Samurai, also a very good movie.

True BUT The Seven Samurai was not meant to be anything other than its own, the Mag 7 was based on the other and the new remake w/ same title-is a pc piece of garbage. The othe two both were excellent movies.
 
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Count me as another that likes the Coen brothers' far more than the original. And also that both pale in comparison to the book-also one that gets re-read every couple of years.

Now this will get a few of you upset, not my intention, but John Wayne always played John Wayne with a couple of exceptions. "The Searchers" and "The Quiet American" in my humble opinion (and student of film) truly did show that he could really act. The third film I really liked, "The Shootist", was perhaps him playing his real self again but it is a fine film.

As for "True Grit" the first, I'll couldn't stand either Glen Campbell or Kim Darby in their roles. Feel free to throw the flames, I can handle it lol. Even in Wayne's roles set in current times he was still a cowboy just dressed funny.

John Wayne was who he was, a specific type of actor and that's just fine but again I feel the remake was an overall better film-and part of that is also due to the current film technology (not having to use "day for night" filters but being able to actually shoot scenes at night for one example).

Hmm, might be time for another reading of the book. :D
 
Kim Darby was great as Matti Ross and Robert Duval was great as Luck Ned Pepper. Jeff Bridges did a fine job as Roster Cogburn but the new True Grit sucked on so many levels that he couldn't save the movie. Plus Jeff Bridges shoots a Winchester like a sissy.

What was the guy hung up in the top of the tree all about? Why did they spend so long on that scene? It was stupid. I could go on and on about why the new True Grit was bad but my biggest complaint is that the first True Grit wasn't that good to start with. With so many great westerns out there, that have yet to be made into a movie, why did they have to redo that one?

OH WAIT! Now they have a Magnificent Seven remake! It's Politically Correct too! Do you think it's not going to suck?
 
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Kim Darby was great as Matti Ross and Robert Duval was great as Luck Ned Pepper. Jeff Bridges did a fine job as Roster Cogburn but the new True Grit sucked on so many levels that he couldn't save the movie. Plus Jeff Bridges shoots a Winchester like a sissy.

What was the guy hung up in the top of the tree all about? Why did they spend so long on that scene? It was stupid. I could go on and on about why the new True Grit was bad but my biggest complaint is that the first True Grit wasn't that good to start with. With so many great westerns out there, that have yet to be made into a movie, why did they have to redo that one?

OH WAIT! Now they have a Magnificent Seven remake! It's Politically Correct too! Do you think it's not going to suck?

Ive always felt the same way on the original-it's pretty weak of a John Wayne western-not in my top 500 favorites to be sure-but still bette than the new one BECAUSE of Duke.
 
I can't figure why they make a remakeof such classics.can you imagine if they made a re make of the shootist and the cowboys

Because there are probably at least two generations who have never seen the 1968 original and to make money. Primarily to make money. And they did make money, mission accomplished.
 
Ive always felt the same way on the original-it's pretty weak of a John Wayne western-not in my top 500 favorites to be sure-but still bette than the new one BECAUSE of Duke.
Yep...
And not to judge an entire movie based on gun handling but Bridges firing in the final horse back shootout scene just wasn't the same as duke twirling his lever action.
 
...my biggest complaint is that the first True Grit wasn't that good to start with.

I've always felt the same way on the original-it's pretty weak of a John Wayne western-not in my top 500 favorites to be sure-but still better than the new one BECAUSE of Duke.


The reason that the original True Grit might not have appealed to many JW fans is that he played some of the movie as satire: a dissolute, n'er do well, drunken, over the hill man who had a fast and loose relationship with the law he was sworn to enforce, played with comedic overtones. Then, in the latter part of the movie, he morphed into the character we all love: the strong, brave, and stalwart man who braves any odds to do what is right, and who IS right in what he does.

Personally, I think True Grit was one of his best westerns, if you look at the man he played. In finding himself and saving the girl, he actually came to love her, and looked after her like the father she lost. It's very similar to The Searchers, in terms of the character, except that Ethan Edwards was not a parody at any time; he was twisted by hate and lost love. At the end of the movie, Edwards did find his humanity, just as Cogburn found his way back to decency.
 
The reason that the original True Grit might not have appealed to many JW fans is that he played some of the movie as satire: a dissolute, n'er do well, drunken, over the hill man who had a fast and loose relationship with the law he was sworn to enforce, played with comedic overtones. Then, in the latter part of the movie, he morphed into the character we all love: the strong, brave, and stalwart man who braves any odds to do what is right, and who IS right in what he does.

Personally, I think True Grit was one of his best westerns, if you look at the man he played. In finding himself and saving the girl, he actually came to love her, and looked after her like the father she lost. It's very similar to The Searchers, in terms of the character, except that Ethan Edwards was not a parody at any time; he was twisted by hate and lost love. At the end of the movie, Edwards did find his humanity, just as Cogburn found his way back to decency.

I thought Rooster Cogburn was the greatest character John Wayne ever played.
 
Time has gone by......

I did like the newer version.

But there are two things that just make the 60s version more memorable. John Wayne and Kim Darby.

I find the newer version fading into memory. It was probably a lot more realistic than the old version but the images of Wayne and Darby yammering at each other are branded in my mind. It was just unforgettable.
 
I did like the newer version.

But there are two things that just make the 60s version more memorable. John Wayne and Kim Darby.

I find the newer version fading into memory. It was probably a lot more realistic than the old version but the images of Wayne and Darby yammering at each other are branded in my mind. It was just unforgettable.

And Darby beating up Col. Stonehill (Strother Martin) during their horse trading.
 
I thought Rooster Cogburn was the greatest character John Wayne ever played.

I'd like to agree, but can't. Too many favorites: Hondo Lane from: Hondo, Henry (quite naturally for an unmentioned reason? :D ) the Ringo Kid from: Stagecoach, Captain Kirby York in: Fort Apache, the Army Colonel in: Back To Bataan, Ethan Edwards in: The Searchers, Sergeant Stryker in: Sands of Iwo Jima, Colonel Cord McNally in: Rio Lobo---and many others.
Hondo Lane:
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The: Ringo Kid :D
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Fort Apache:
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Posted a few since I didnt want anyone confusing him for Henry Fonda or Pedro Armendariez:
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My Back To Bataan image-and no-he aint the guy (Anthony Quinn) on the left: Oh and, my image is the original and not the Turner reprint:p
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Ethan Edwards:
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Sgt. John M. Stryker:
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Col. McNally:
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And too many others to list. ;)
 
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The Oscar.....

I think John Wayne knew that it was a 'lifetime achievement award'. When he accepted the Oscar he said, "I should have put that eye patch on 30 years ago!"

Just about any big 'award' becomes self serving and tends to push some people out of the picture.

The unique and very non-hard rock group Jethro Tull never got a Grammy until they got an award in the category of "Hard/Metal Rock" beating out "Metallica" (about the biggest metal group ever) by putting one song called 'Steel Monkey" on their album.

The next year Metallica won and said that they were glad that Jethro Tull didn't put out a record that year.

JT knew it was ridiculous and didn't even attend the ceremony.

Another pile of junk award is the "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame". There's about 20 major and influential groups that have been ignored since it's inception in favor of newer 'talent'.
 
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