David LaPell
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Has anyone ever had any experience with the Walther P99 in 9mm? I have always like the looks of them but was wondering about the trigger pull and grip set up on them.
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S. Hammer
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I had one and really liked it. The gun comes with 3 interchangeable back straps. With the small installed it fit my hand very well and still held 17 +1. Decent enough trigger for self defense, but not match grade by any means. Wouldn't hesitate to carry one either on or off duty. Sold mine and got an H&K P30LS as it has a Colt/Browning style manual safety which I like.
safearm
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I have both a P99 and a P99c in 9mm. Both have the AS (Anti-Stress) system that "decocks" the internal hammer. The P99c is my daily carry gun. I can carry it with either the 10 round magazine of the full size 15 round magazine with an adapter. The 3/4 inch difference in the barrel lengths between the compact and full-size models is negligible.
Both of my guns came with the installed medium size backstrap and two extra, one small and one large. I kept the medium backstrap on the full-size and put the small backstrap on the compact. They also come with two different height front sights that are easy to install.
The only shortcoming is finding less expensive 15 round magazines for the full size gun. 10 round magazines, both for the compact and full-size are relatively easy to find and not too expensive; 15 rounders run in the $50-60 range, if you can find them. Supposedly, the new Magnum Research magazines will fit; they are in the $30 range each.
Both of my guns came with the installed medium size backstrap and two extra, one small and one large. I kept the medium backstrap on the full-size and put the small backstrap on the compact. They also come with two different height front sights that are easy to install.
The only shortcoming is finding less expensive 15 round magazines for the full size gun. 10 round magazines, both for the compact and full-size are relatively easy to find and not too expensive; 15 rounders run in the $50-60 range, if you can find them. Supposedly, the new Magnum Research magazines will fit; they are in the $30 range each.
S. Hammer
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S&W sold me 5 of the hi caps for $20 a piece when I sent the request on agency letterhead about 5 years ago.
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I didn't care for the trigger on the one I tried. It had a strang mix of half way from a Sigma to a M&P. Not better than either but without the highlights of either. The grip profile has to be felt to decide if you like it or not. Personally, I didn't care for it. I also didn't care for the top of the slide bottom decocker. I don't approve of completely alien to muscle memory levers and switches.
safearm
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There are a couple of different triggers. The QA (Quick Action) is similar to a Glock; the new PPQ has only that type. The AS trigger is more like DA; from the uncocked (AS) position, it's a long, somewhat heavy pull. From the cocked position, it's more like a light SA pull.
Cousin Vinnie
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Love it!
I have a later version without the hump in the trigger guard in 9mm - DOA. Feels great in your hand, shoots perfect and carries well. I purchased extra factory magazines and never looked back.
IMHO it is a sleeper!
I have a later version without the hump in the trigger guard in 9mm - DOA. Feels great in your hand, shoots perfect and carries well. I purchased extra factory magazines and never looked back.
IMHO it is a sleeper!
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I have the older version and it has been a good handgun, reliable, accurate. It does have an odd manual of arms - so some could find it a bit confusing to use, initially at least.
Since buying a Glock 19, which is easy to use, and fits my hand better, the P99 seldom comes out of the safe.
Since buying a Glock 19, which is easy to use, and fits my hand better, the P99 seldom comes out of the safe.
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Uck. I forgot about the hump in the trigger guard. I somehow managed to get some skin between the bottom of the trigger and that hump during the trigger reset… OUCH…
And I also forgot to mention the model I shot was a .40SW.
And I also forgot to mention the model I shot was a .40SW.
nightshade2x
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LOVE mine - OD green P99 QA. Previous to my M&P9 purchase last month it was my first and only polymer handgun. It has been my primary defensive handgun since purchase. I am very comfortable with it and shoot it well. For me it's not a target gun but a fighting handgun. I carry it with a Blackhawk SERPA retention holster.
Currently it shares duty with my M&P9 (my OTHER polymer handgun).
S. Hammer - 17 + 1 ? I'm not aware that any P99 had a 17 + 1 capacity. Tops was 15 + 1.
Have fun and be safe.
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Currently it shares duty with my M&P9 (my OTHER polymer handgun).
S. Hammer - 17 + 1 ? I'm not aware that any P99 had a 17 + 1 capacity. Tops was 15 + 1.
Have fun and be safe.
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I don't mean to rain so hard on the Walther. I just had a very negative time with the one handed to me. Clearly as others have stated you may love it.
safearm
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The German magazines were 16 rounds; they're hard to find and expensive. The magazines for the US market P99s were 10 rounds. S&W offered the 15 round magazines after they started the SW99, which was a P99 frame, manufactured in Germany, with a S&W SW99 slide, manufactured in Massachuetts.
nightshade2x
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Hum...not sure this is totally correct...my P99 is a German made gun (not S&W) purchased in the US and it came with (2) Mec-Gar brand 15 rd. magazines. Again NEVER seen or heard of any 16 or 17 rounders.
Curious to know more about these "German" magazines as mine is a German gun and was purchased WAY before the existance of the SW99.
Have fun and be safe.
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S. Hammer
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I stand corrected. They were 16 round mags. Had to research my post in the classifieds from when I sold it. Years ago Walther marked mags holding 16 rounds were available. That was one of the reasons I went with the 9 instead of the .40. Wonder why they dropped down to 15.
safearm
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What are the import markings on your P99? Are the plastic floorplates on your 15 round magazines marked "Walther" or P99?
All P99s are German made; guns sold to the US market normally came with 2 10 round magazines. The guns sold in Europe came with 16, or later 15, round magazines.
The 15 round magazines were available in the US as after-market magazines, and most were made by Mec-Gar with plastic Walther P99 floorplates.
I had a first generation P99 with Interarms import markings, and later, a Ti P99 with S&W import markings, both came with 10 round magazines.
nightshade2x
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How about some pictures...give me a few min.
Have fun and be safe.
Nightshade2x
Have fun and be safe.
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nightshade2x
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Here ya go guys. Mags are maked "Walther" over "P99" on the floor plate.
Pix were JUST taken on my deck.
Have fun and be safe.
Nightshade2x
Pix were JUST taken on my deck.
Have fun and be safe.
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About the only gun I have been able to interest my wife in has been the Walther P-22 and she seems to do okay with that. I'll watch for one of these P-99's and see if it's something she would be interested in trying. I looked at them before for myself and didn't care for the placement of the magazine release but, she's used to it from the little one. Might work.
The P99 is just about the only semiauto that can get me away from my BHP. I have 2 in 9mm one is the c model, both are the AS trigger. My son is trying to swap me (for one of my Hi Powers of course) for a QA full size 9mm. I admit I like the ability to have the chamber loaded and then release the firing pin, giving one a handgun that requires only about a 1/8" slide movement to go into action. I am just slightly paranoid about gun grabs, the QA with the firing pin uncocked would fustrate the most dedicated gun grabber out there for quite a while-and I do not need that long to present my 940 which is almost always my BUG (sometimes a 442) and deal with the situation.
Some folks think that I am too gun grab aware, well just about half of all LEO in 2010 that were shot, were shot with their own weapon, another LEOs weapon, or by another LEO-hopefully accidently.
I have done some training with the QA and found that a slight downward push against the holster will "cock" the weapon, with virtually no loss of time in presentation, well about .155 of a second to be precise. I'll see.......
Some folks think that I am too gun grab aware, well just about half of all LEO in 2010 that were shot, were shot with their own weapon, another LEOs weapon, or by another LEO-hopefully accidently.
I have done some training with the QA and found that a slight downward push against the holster will "cock" the weapon, with virtually no loss of time in presentation, well about .155 of a second to be precise. I'll see.......
nightshade2x
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Snow & AK...both well said...the decocker option on the P99 is awesome. Works well for range time as well as a super short..."carry safety" as a sight tug puts it back in battery...
We own both a P22 as well as the P99 and I have to say they both feel very similar. The P22 is particularly wonderful to me as I like the external hammer and the SA/DA function. My dream gun would be the P99 in the same function as the P22...DA/SA with an external hammer with decock and no safety.
Still the P22 functions as a great "same feel" trainer to the P99 and is a great weapon for young and first time shooters...they are quite popular at our clubs pistol shoots...nevermind the suppressor options...
I have found that a "press check" or a tactile gun press into a solid medium will take the P99 from a decocked state to a battery ready state...a nice option in a defensive fighting pistol. However there is no "standoff" as a press will also take the gun out of battery. I have found a laser/light rail attachment solves the standoff issue.
From my experience in quick drill "switch guns and figure it out" defensive shooting the mag release placement is quite an impediment to a potential "badguy" as none of my fellow students could figure it out... a nice feature in such a situation.
Have fun and be safe.
Nightshade2x
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