DocSunShine
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This drop issue is a fairy tale, me nor my father have had issues with our .40 shield's. IMO it's people who can't handle the recoil of a .40 in a small package that are hitting the make release, man up!
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M&P SHIELD 0.40 CALIBER MAGAZINE DROP PROBLEM POLL
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Smitty357
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LoL, I almost have to agree. I have put a **** load of rounds through mine and it hasnt skipped a beat.
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Here we go..we have had a nice reasonably intelligent discussion until your brilliant post. I guess all of us here on this forum are just limp wristed and don't know how to shoot as good as you do. I guess we were all bored and sent our guns back to Smith so we would have something to do. I guess they modified our Mag's and mag catches just for fun. Why would they write me and tell me not to use my old Mag's because they would not work in my gun? Why would they send my gun back after a second return and say that it had a undersized mag catch and that it had been replaced? This is no fairy tale. Byebye now. I have a dinner date with the Mad Hatter. Give me a break.
Mark82ndABN
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Wow, your post screams "I'm a new shooter with very little experience, an inferiority complex and still living with my parents". LOL
Keep shooting long enough young sprout and eventually you'll experience a problem gun or two. It happens.
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The_Unknown_Surfer
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Sorry to disagree, but perhaps you should have read
through all of the posts before offering your opinion like this.
If you had read even half of the posts here,
then you would realize that not all serial numbers
have the problem, and that it is with the extended magazine.
Granted, there are many Shield .40's out there that do not have the problem.
My congratulations to you and your father for obtaining two Shield .40's
that do not experience the extended magazine drop out.
Many of us were not so fortunate.
As an owner of a dropper, (S/N DXX####)
that was returned to S&W and repaired,
(Mag release replaced & Mags dimpled)
which now no longer drops the extended magazine,
I can tell you with absolute certainty,
THERE HAS BEEN AND STILL IS A PROBLEM.
It is out right insulting to post a comment such as this,
which implies that everyone here discussing this issue in an intelligent,
civilized manner is incapable of controlling the recoil of a .40 caliber round.
Another .40 Shield owner for whom S&W dimpled the mags and corrected the mag drop problem. I had an NRA instructor confirm my magazine drop problem before I contacted S&W about the problem. SN DXXxxx.
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DocSunShine
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Wow, your post screams "I'm a new shooter with very little experience, an inferiority complex and still living with my parents". LOL
I'm 30 years old, I'm a physician and I've been shooting since 14. My father is retired LEO, neither of us are new shooters. The only problem gun I've ever owned is a Kahr CM40, and you couldn't pay me to own another Kahr.
Are serial numbers are DXT & DXY, we've both put a significan number of rounds through each. When I go to the range I top off both mags so I start of +1 every time I reload the gun. I've put enough carry ammo through it, if the drop problem hasn't reared it's ugly head yet, I'm confident it won't.
I stand by my statement, I believe many of you people are hitting the mag release, especially the guys on here talking about having more than 1 40 Shield that is a lemon. Sorry, but I don't buy that, unless they're the unluckiest person on the face of the planet.
The_Unknown_Surfer
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As a 30 year old physician,
I certainly hope that you do not jump to
conclusions regarding the diagnosis of your patients
the same way that you have jumped to a conclusion here.
Garnet
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Pleased to see he is in Ohio and thus cannot possibly be MY physician! Ultimately one of his patients will be harmed because of his arrogance and stubborn refusal to listen to what is being reported to him.
Bikemobile
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Its all a big myth. Thats why S&W dimpled my mags and replaced my mag release.
S&W would just say, "meets spec" and send it back if you were right. Maybe you got lucky and got one that doesnt drop.
Your toyota camry hasnt driven itself through a wall YET, either.
I've had many S&W handguns over 30 and lately, over the past 2 years, I have noticed a lack of customer service. Both the Bodyguard and Shield have had manufacturing issues and they seem to consider it business as usual. The shield 9 drops mags like they were red hot and getting response either email or by phone takes days. That might be an indication of the volume of problems. Is it just me or do others notice the same thing?
so, the 9's are dropping mags now too? i thought it was just the 40's.
Repli-can't
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I got my Shield .40 (DXY****) back from S&W today. They:
"replaced pins" (mine was missing pivot pin on sear deactivation lever),
"replaced rear sight" (mine was consistently shooting left by two people shooting),
"adjust trigger pull" (I measured mine at 8.5 lbs+/-... Now measuring 7.5 lbs +/-). Since spec is 6.5 lbs +/- I guess my only option is to install an Apex,
"replace mag" (I was experiencing mag drop on the extended mag. I put pencil marks on both mags but not on ones returned to me. Since the extended mag still has the Talon grip still on the mag that I installed I'm guessing that one didn't get replaced. BOTH mags, however, have been "dimpled")
"range tested/meets spec". (Note spec of trigger pull vs. actual. I guess "+/-" is a bigger variance than I would expect).
I'll be going to the range on Saturday with the gun. If the accuracy is within my usual (O.K.) shooting ability AND I get no more mag drops then GREAT. If any further issues the I will be looking for a buyer. Sorry in advance for all of you S&W fans but when is Glock going to make a >1" thick (sub)compact single stack?
"replaced pins" (mine was missing pivot pin on sear deactivation lever),
"replaced rear sight" (mine was consistently shooting left by two people shooting),
"adjust trigger pull" (I measured mine at 8.5 lbs+/-... Now measuring 7.5 lbs +/-). Since spec is 6.5 lbs +/- I guess my only option is to install an Apex,
"replace mag" (I was experiencing mag drop on the extended mag. I put pencil marks on both mags but not on ones returned to me. Since the extended mag still has the Talon grip still on the mag that I installed I'm guessing that one didn't get replaced. BOTH mags, however, have been "dimpled")
"range tested/meets spec". (Note spec of trigger pull vs. actual. I guess "+/-" is a bigger variance than I would expect).
I'll be going to the range on Saturday with the gun. If the accuracy is within my usual (O.K.) shooting ability AND I get no more mag drops then GREAT. If any further issues the I will be looking for a buyer. Sorry in advance for all of you S&W fans but when is Glock going to make a >1" thick (sub)compact single stack?
I am a former leo current federal firearms instructor, and have zero problems with my pm40 except breaking a mag follower. My xds is the same size as the shield and I haven't had any problems with it either. Perhaps the issue with your cm40 were with you. Maybe you didn't properly prepare the kahr before heading to the range? They are special and typically require some extra attention before plinking rounds. I shot my pistol left handed and had another instructor shoot it also. It's the pistol, not the shooter.
No offense but first you run down the Kahr. if your a doctor why buy the lower end of Kahr line. I own the PM9 and 1200+ rounds never an issue.
I am one of the people who owns (2) Shields .40s and (1) Shield 9mm. I been shooting for over 40 years and trust me the problem is not hitting the mag release. The gun is new to the market and S&W / M&P was trying to put out a gun that is small but still powerful in the small firearm field. I have spoken to the S&W rep personally and the Shield was really designed for 9MM, check the people who own one, no problems. It probably goes the same as your CM40, the gun is small and was probably made for 9mm, but people wanted more power so they used the same frame and increase the caliber to .40. But getting back to the Shield .40, my new one has not given me any issues and the other has already been sent to S&W, fixed, sort of, and is now firing flawlessly with over just about 1000 rounds down the tube.
I don't think there is a gun manufactuer out there that does not have issues(except Glock
). XDMs has tons, check out their forum. I am Glock guy by nature, but I am always open to try and use guns I hear good things about and normally buy them. My mistake was all my research was on the 9mm, Youtube videos, forums, etc. Shame on me. I am selling one of my .40s as soon as get my other 9mm comes in. However, I would not sell my new one that I carry sometimes as my EDC. I trust the gun and that's all that matters. I have racks of handguns, most of them being Glocks, but I trust all of them or they would not be here.You need to open your eyes, it not the shooters, you need to read all the posts. Some of us have had problems and others don't. You have been one of the lucky ones.
My final thoughts are that S&W was in a hurry to introduce their offering at the NRA show and did not work out all the bugs. Shame on them.
You being a doctor probably know there is a Class Action Lawsuit for people who had Robotic surgery. I had it and I never had one problem, but some people did. So, let's scrap the machine or is it the doctor?
This is news to me too!
The_Unknown_Surfer
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Oh No ! I'm in Ohio too.
Fortunately, none of my Doctors are that young and inexperienced.
The_Unknown_Surfer
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Please, Please, Please,
Tell us (me) that this was a typo,
and that you really meant the .40 S&W not 9 mm are dropping mags ?
Please ?
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