You could always aim the gun at a mirror, shine the flashlight on the gun's reflection (that keeps everything but the mirror safe). I have done this when I was ONCE curious about what it looked like to be on the "wrong" end of the gun.
S&W M&P 9mm fully jammed
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You could always aim the gun at a mirror, shine the flashlight on the gun's reflection (that keeps everything but the mirror safe). I have done this when I was ONCE curious about what it looked like to be on the "wrong" end of the gun.
thank you! thank you!
I just want to say thank you. i made a rookie mistake didnt put the spring/recoil rod in there and cock the gun. big mistake. the barrel locked up tight! try all the movable parts, none help. then see your post. finally say a prayer, and sure enough, I was able to push the upper back to location (as it's closed), from there, I was able to retrace my steps and take it apart and put it back with the spring/recoil rod.
valuable lesson learn here today, but i want to say thank you.
-Noob,
I just want to say thank you. i made a rookie mistake didnt put the spring/recoil rod in there and cock the gun. big mistake. the barrel locked up tight! try all the movable parts, none help. then see your post. finally say a prayer, and sure enough, I was able to push the upper back to location (as it's closed), from there, I was able to retrace my steps and take it apart and put it back with the spring/recoil rod.
valuable lesson learn here today, but i want to say thank you.
-Noob,
kthom
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Good Job! How can one shine a light down into the barrel and then look inside without pointing the gun at something you don't want to shoot? I broke out in a cold sweat when I read that advice! I understand the advice about using a dowel to determine if there is a live round in the chamber or a bullet somewhere in the barrel, but even that procedure is fraught with peril. I believe your decision to go to a gunsmith with the problem is a very good one. Whatever the cost, it's cheaper than what might have to be paid otherwise! Good luck with getting your gun back in usuable condition. And yes, skip the Tula Ammo (and others like it) from now on! We can find problems with any ammo, but the well known name brands are much less likely to have these kinds of problems. Steel cases or coated cases are a recipe for potential problems as opposed to clean shiney ones.
9mm slide jam
I had that happen to me also. Called S&W since they are only 20 minutes away. I wanted to bring it in, but the CS person said they only let LE do that. Asked about sending it . Federal law forbids sending a pistol that has a round in it.
Called a number of gun shops and got the name of a local gunsmith. He put it into a vice, pressed down on the barrel hood and with a plastic hammer struck the front of the slide. The slide moved back and it opened up. He did not charge me either.
I had that happen to me also. Called S&W since they are only 20 minutes away. I wanted to bring it in, but the CS person said they only let LE do that. Asked about sending it . Federal law forbids sending a pistol that has a round in it.
Called a number of gun shops and got the name of a local gunsmith. He put it into a vice, pressed down on the barrel hood and with a plastic hammer struck the front of the slide. The slide moved back and it opened up. He did not charge me either.
Virginia John
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The only time I ever had something like this happen, I used a 20 ton press to rack the slide. If you have access to one it will work.
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What causes Tula ammo to stick in the chamber? Would having the chamber polished help? I would like to be able to shoot any type of 9mm ammo in my Shield.
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I've never bought or fired any foreign made steel case ammo thru any of my guns, so I am basing this response on what I've seen other shooters bring to the range. Don't know if it's still the case, but the Russian steel case stuff used to be coated with a lacquer that melted off the cases and gummed up the chamber, thus causing cases to stick. Wasn't a problem with an AK firing 7.63x39, but when they started cranking out .223/5.56, the ARs didn't like it and had to have the chambers cleaned a lot more frequently. What has been described here, however, sounds like a lot of substandard quality control. Stuff that could have been intended for radical foreign malcontents, but got diverted because American consumers pay with greater regularity. With that said, I've also seen and experienced poor quality store brand and poor quality control from established manufacturers on occasion. I wouldn't have my chamber reamed out so that any cheap ole round will fire thru the pistol. Accuracy suffers. American gun companies really don't seem to design their firearms around steel case ammo like the old Soviet bloc did. Though it's hard, stick with quality manufacturers' products. You're better covered if there's a product failure. Besides, I would not plan to stock up on cheap foreign steel case ammo as a SHTF load.
I have never experienced a jam such as the OP described, but the advise on how to clear it, including the description of the gunsmith's technique for clearing it is something that will go in my tool box.
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Arik
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Problem with that is companies buy and sell from and to each other. Who's brass is it really? Who's bullet?
For instance, Wolf is actually an American company, not a Russian one. They just almost exclusively import Russian ammo. However, Wolf Gold in 223 is made in Tiwan. Wolf 22lr is made in Germany. Hornady buys their steel case from Russia. Geco is made in several different countries. Colt 223 is made in Russia. Israeli military 556 uses Sierra Match King bullets. And there are much much more.
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For instance, Wolf is actually an American company, not a Russian one. They just almost exclusively import Russian ammo. However, Wolf Gold in 223 is made in Tiwan. Wolf 22lr is made in Germany. Hornady buys their steel case from Russia. Geco is made in several different countries. Colt 223 is made in Russia. Israeli military 556 uses Sierra Match King bullets. And there are much much more.
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live round
I tried many of the methods offered above this post and used a combo of a few to eject the live round. Field stripping the shield and inspecting everything possible I inserted a wooden dowel(pencil cut flush) inserted it in the barrel and lightly tapped the eraser end on the wooden work bench to see if the lodged live round would move. I could see it did but field stripped I still could not remove the barrel nor assembled could I muscle/force racking the slide. BUT!!!! after going through the exact same motions I re assembled the Shield but did NOT lock the lever that locks the slide to the lower assembly, and easily racked the slide and out popped the round that caused me so much grief! Hope this helps somebody else. Be SAFE, especially when you know a live round is a factor.
I tried many of the methods offered above this post and used a combo of a few to eject the live round. Field stripping the shield and inspecting everything possible I inserted a wooden dowel(pencil cut flush) inserted it in the barrel and lightly tapped the eraser end on the wooden work bench to see if the lodged live round would move. I could see it did but field stripped I still could not remove the barrel nor assembled could I muscle/force racking the slide. BUT!!!! after going through the exact same motions I re assembled the Shield but did NOT lock the lever that locks the slide to the lower assembly, and easily racked the slide and out popped the round that caused me so much grief! Hope this helps somebody else. Be SAFE, especially when you know a live round is a factor.
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SemperFlyBoy
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Solved my problem!
You, Sir, are absolutely brilliant! I was on my way to the local gunsmith after having tried everything reasonable. My Shield jammed this morning after a failure to fire. So, I had to assume the round still had some life left which eliminated the stuff-down-the-barrel approach. A few smacks on the grip while holding the gun by the slide and all was well again. Thank your teacher for me too.
