Gunsmoke, Doc was an old curmudgeon etc.

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I like the older grittier episodes before Dodge was so 'cosmopolitan'.



Speaking of Matt calling Bronson out, does anybody remember the Tombstone Territory where Clay Hollister called the gunslingers bluff and squatted so he would miss his shot. Clay still has his shot while he blisters the guy about all of his gunslinger tricks that are so obvious. That was one episode where he didn't need to shoot anybody.

Id reply to your quoted [post, but my heads spinning.:D

I have Tombstone Territory, and watched the show after I had brain surgery last year. I loved the series and fell asleep alot at that time due to prescription drugs--so I dont remember that episode. I will be watching it again when im through with Gunsmoke and 2 seasons of: Death Valley Days.

Forgot, when it ran syndicated here locally, it was always using its original title.
 
Gunsmoke did poorly going to the hour format until everybody learned how to make a good one hour show. An hour long show in the early 60's was practically a movie.

It's really amazing how many shows were just a half hour. They didn't seem to fly by so quick then. I think everything ran at a slower pace. I can't watch network TV. I can't follow the story line with so many, and so long commercial interruptions. Especially when those interruptions are such an assault on your senses.

That's why I like DvD so much, the only commercials-are extras on the first disc, and shows Dillon and Dillon and Doc, smoking L&H? brand? or something of that nature?.
 
As far as I know, the series was always called Gunsmoke here in the US. After all, it was the adaptation for TV of the long-running radio show with the same name, and with the same characters. I have heard it was called Gun Law when shown in England. And yes, reruns were shown with the title Marshall Dillon on Wednesday nights, IIRC.

In the radio version, Doc was a much different character. You wonder if he had any formal medical training at all or was pretty much a frontier quack. He wasn't any too admirable, being mostly interested in making money. For example, in one radio show he volunteers to autopsy a deceased criminal for free if he can put the body on public display and charge ten cents a head to view the corpse! In the early years of the TV show, there was some carry over of the radio Doc's personality, but it was greatly watered down. After the first few years Doc became the kind, altruistic (if a little gruff and grumpy) Doc we think of now.

The early shows were a lot grittier than the later ones. In one early show, three drunken miscreants hang a harmless old guy basically just to amuse themselves, but Dillon can't prove anything. At the end of the show, the townspeople rise up and hang these three evil doers. Dillon says something like "If I find out who did this I will arrest them." It's clear he intends to do nothing about it.

In another early one, Dillon and Chester ambush a gang that has been plundering rural homesteads and murdering the occupants. The lawmen begin firing without any warning, killing several outlaws and forcing the others to surrender. Dillon's attitude is that he gave them the same chance that they gave their victims.

Well, Gunsmoke was supposed to be an adult show, not the Saturday morning mush made for children. In later years, this was toned down a lot.

I saw the show for years after school. It was on CBS in the 4pm slot-except when changed for Star Trek or Hogan's Heroes.
 
In one episode ... and I believe it only happened once in the entire series... Doc shoots and kills an outlaw that is preventing him from making a call to a seriously ill citizen. It later turns out that this bad guy was wanted with reward offered, dead or alive.

Question is ... what did Doc use to kill this bad guy and who was the bad guy's brother that wanted revenge by attempting to kill Doc ? Doc later saves the life of the brother (that was trying to kill him) and gives the brother the reward money to give to the bad guy's wife (that Doc killed).

That must be in another season? ive only seen Doc want to kill someone in a season 1 ep. He grabs a .36 Cal Colt. The guy he wants to kill--would have been his Brother-in-Law. Another ep has him saving a guy he hated and wanted dead. By the end-the guy is saved and Doc no longer hated him.
 
In season 3 episode 14 "Doc's Reward" he kills a man who is trying to keep him from getting to his patient. Iirc he uses a shotgun.

I will be starting season 2 this week, so will be awhile before I can get to it.
 
James Arness and Peter Graves (TV's Mission Impossible) are brothers.

William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Forest DeKelley, (Bones) and James Doohan (Scotty) all appeared in separate episodes of Gunsmoke.

Dennis Weaver was an anti-gun, anti hunting activist.

That probably in-advertently explains why he rarely carried a gun on the show.

I cant wait to get to whatever season had Burt Reynolds in them as a Blacksmith????
 
I think Chester said here: He's dead Mr. Dillon.

Well, NO DUH!!!

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Dillon didnt say anything or even look at Chester--just walks away.
 
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Been watching the first season of a four season set of Gunsmoke. A few things of interest.

1) Its original working title-never used here as far as im aware of? was: Gun Law. However-that title was used at the original title when shown in Europe. I have seen season 1 before--about a year or so ago, but have noticed many new things in many episodes this time round.

First, I know that writing was much simplar for Tv back then but notice in every episode-or almost every episode so far--that people are stupid enough to tell Dillon that they are either "out to gun him down" or out to kill someone else. I know if you told that to any LE personnel these days--you wouldnt be allowed to go free and still packing any heat. Anyway, some of the stories were really "simple" for lack of a better word just now.

I like that at the beginning of most episodes-it starts out with Dillon on "Boot Hill" reflecting on how many of its "residents" arrved at Boot Hill. In many stories--Dillon really has nothing to go on-and cant arrest someone for a killing or other. However, I like how he finally uses common-sense when coming to the conclusion of something that helps in his making an arrest--or a "needed killin."

Ive been studying Doc (Milburn Stone) and his attitude towards things. He seems almost pissed-off most of the time. Doc is a poor sport when it comes to losing at cards-or checkers. He will throw a tantrum and knock the pieces off the board or table. Just when you think you might not be able to stand Doc's company, he comes around a bit and softens up.

Miss Kitty. I noticed when she first had a "mole" it appeared on her left cheek. Recently its been on her right cheek.

Just saw the episode with Leo Gordon. Gordon indeed wears the same outfit as shown in the opening "gunfight" and imdb is wrong on who it is that Dillon is going against. The character gets shot twice.

The Charles Bronson episode--where he playes a cowardly ambusher-back-shooter called: Crego, was an excellent episode. For the first time, Dillon goads someone (Crego) into going for his gun. As he knows Crego is a back-shooter-already instructing his "Deputy" Chester, to stand by the door and react when Crego goes for his gun when Dillon turns his back on him. Dillon admitted to Cregos face that "he needs killin." Crego however doesn't want to face Dillon like a man, so takes off his gunbelt and lays it on the table. However, Dillon tells him no matter what? he's going to die that night (not those exact words-but I dont really want to spoil it for you)

Chester: If I recall? I THINK somewhere in season 1, you learn why he limps with right leg being messed up. Im still trying to find out why he never wears a handgun? and only carries a rifle when Dillon gives one to him-or he takes itoff an arrested person. I am beginning to get annoyed with Chester always calling Dillon: "Mr. Dillon" instead of Marshal or boss or whatever?

Apparantly at least the first four seasons are only 30 minute long episodes. I wonder when they made this into an hour-long show??

Wanted posters inside of and outside Dillon's office. They used real names on the poster-like William Bonney and Black Bart. Its kind of interesting when you can see enough of the posters to actually read. One of them I THINK also mentioned: The Ringo Kid. :D

The "city of" Dodge as seen from "Boot Hill" is a nice B&W painting or inking. Ive seen several of the grave markers-probably made out of styrofoam or balsa wood--swaying in the breeze as the Marshal reflects on somehting.

One of the script-writers was none other than Sam Peckinpah. Every story in whatever TV series it was in-that ive seen written by him--was excellent.

I noticed another "link" to John Wayne movies-in particular (again) Stagecoach. The music used in Stagecoach--where appropriate and used showing the stagecoach--is also used in episodes of Gunsmoke-in scenes showing the arrival of a stagecoach.

Anyone else have something I missed so far?

Almost forgot. Chester has a brother by the name of Magnus--who is a chatacter in himself.

Sorry for all the misspellings--im using a machine with tiny screen today.

Ever notice how often Marshal Dillon gets shot in the left arm or left shoulder? Most of the rest of the time it's a head wound. Great fun. And Miss Kitty is still looking fine on Gunsmoke Internet reruns.
 
Ever notice how often Marshal Dillon gets shot in the left arm or left shoulder? Most of the rest of the time it's a head wound. Great fun. And Miss Kitty is still looking fine on Gunsmoke Internet reruns.

I also noticed how many times Clint Eastwood got konked as Rowdy. I guess Dillon has a thick shouldrr, and Rowdy a thick skull?

In 1955-56--Miss Kitty was absolutely beautiful--moving mole or not? :D
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Miss Kitty Russell without mole.
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I remember reading that John Wayne was supposed to play Matt Dillon but He was busy on another project so He suggested His Friend James Arness and the rest is History.
Festus Hagan always called Doc a ornery old Scutter, I guess that must have been the word for curmudgeon back in those days.
I did some research and Chester(Dennis Weaver) was just fooling around in front of the Director and was limping so They put the limp in the Show,They explained the limp as Chester was a wounded Confederate Soldier.I also read that if You really pay attention to the show You can see Chester forget what Leg is bad and limp on the wrong one.

It used to be a favorite thing in our family to catch Chester limping on the wrong leg...thanks for the memories. Marvin
 
I also noticed how many times Clint Eastwood got konked as Rowdy. I guess Dillon has a thick shouldrr, and Rowdy a thick skull?

In 1955-56--Miss Kitty was absolutely beautiful--moving mole or not? :D
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Miss Kitty Russell without mole.
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Wikipedia said: Amanda Blake (February 20, 1929 – August 16, 1989) was an American actress best known for the role of the red-haired saloon proprietress "Miss Kitty Russell" on the television western Gunsmoke.
 
I saw Milburn Saturday night on an old movie on ME TV called Captive Wild Woman(1943). He was animal trainer in it and his in the cage action shots were actually Clyde Beatty (of Clyde Beatty's Circus) as his double.
 
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My grandad went to the same school as Milburn Stone in Burrton Kansas which is a small farming community with significant oil fields discovered in the area just after WW1. They graduated from high school the same year in the early 20's. My grandad, a farmer, could also be a curmudgeon at times. Grandad didn't talk much about Stone but I think he envied his celebrity success.
 
I have the first 10 seasons of Gunsmoke DVDs and am working my way through them. The shows are half-hour for the first 6 seasons. I have noticed that Matt almost always kills at least one guy in the half-hour shows. Oddly, the character development is minimal in the short shows and somewhat over done in the hour long versions. Matt doesn't always kill people in every long show. It is fun to spot all the actors who eventually had their own shows. FYI....Chester was in the Confederate army...and is the only character who drawls.

My Dad and I used to listen to the radio Gunsmoke while working in the barn. William Conrad voiced Matt(a rotund fellow who had several TV shows of his own) and Parley Baer voiced Chester. Kitty was clearly a Ho and Doc was an alcoholic.

Some of the DVDs have a sampling of commercials. The two products mentioned are L&M cigs which Matt puffs on and Remington electric shavers.
 
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