I bought a .25 Raven today

Mine isn't near as pretty as your's, but here it is along with a couple of other mousers. ;)

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Mine has a bit of a story attached to it. A couple of years ago I saw an local ad for this gun. The owner said there was something wrong with it, it wouldn't work and to make an offer. Just for S&G, I bought it for $20. I took it home, examined it, turned the firing pin around the way its supposed to go and it worked like a charm. ;)
My best friend dropped by a few days latter and I showed it to him. He got all excited and said "I WANT IT!" So I sold it to him for what I had in it, $20.
Last year my friend passed away. While helping his wife go through his safe, I stumbled across it again. Without so much as a pause, I gave his wife $20 and took it back home.
Piece of junk it may be, I'll never sell it again because it reminds me of my friend.
 
Nothing to mock. Neat little .25; those little mouse guns are fun to shoot occasionally. And oh, BTW, there are hundreds of thousands of cadavers buried around the globe that would disagree that the little .25 is inadequate. This is my .25; a German Ortgies from ca. 1922.:)


 
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Really nice example you have there. This gun might be poked fun at, but it's part of American gun history. If I remember correctly, the Raven was devised by a man who wanted to provide a reliable small semi for self defense. It was NOT designed to be a criminal's favorite! Back in the 1970's, anti gun rhetoric was aimed at this gun similar to how the AR 15 is targeted today.

I have my father's Raven in its original box with the price tag showing $34.00 from the early 1970's. My dad was ill due to kidney disease. He was head-of-sales for a West Philadelphia kitchen design company. Often, he needed to visit areas at night in high crime areas and he was able to demonstrate his need carry a gun. PA was not a "shall-issue" State back then so the process to obtain a carry permit was difficult. I have his carry permit. I can remember standing out in our back yard watching my dad fire the first test shots at a piece of plywood leaning against our brick house and getting "bit" by the slide.

I bought a box of 25 ACP (expensive stuff!). I will say that the humble made-in-America "Saturday Night Special" shot pleasantly, reliably and POA-POI- PERFECT!

So anyway, thanks again for this topic and sharing pics of your your Raven. I think I'll go into the safe and pull out that box with my Dad's Raven just to look it over and maybe read up on the Raven's interesting history. I'll never part with it!
 
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Nice looking Raven Muddyboot; here is a picture of mine. It came with several other guns purchased as a lot. Some of the others, from more reputable/desirable manufacturers, have found other homes. This one, I cant seem to let go of. Its just a neat little unappreciated gun. It came with the original purchase receipt from a long ago closed local gun shop in town.

They are neat little guns. You did good on your much maligned purchase. Enjoy it!
 

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That's funny. My son's wife sold me one for $35 about 10 years ago. She got it to carry off to college. I didn't really want it, but she wanted the money. Still have it. Don't know why.
 
I kept an old .25 auto, purchased in a Western Auto Store, laced in the top of my combat boot until I could afford a J frame as a back-up. It never malfunctioned.
 
Your post got me thinking, my wife and I purchased a pair of Tanfoglio GT 27 in 25 ACP,in 1990?? Consecutive SN#. Why? Because we did not own any 25 autos! So they have sat in the safe for the last 28 years in the boxes. Local gun shop had a sale going- about 75$ otd- I just checked a few sites that are offering used GT-27's for $175. For some reason I do not believe that my wife is going to switch from her Colt officer's with frame melt, night sights, Action done, Cerakote. I bought a pair of Short forties, consecutive back in 1993, ( 0573,0574) which they remain in the box, unfired, next to a consecutive pair of SS speed sixes, consecutive of course, NIB, of course- she said that she would not switch from a 45 ACP, and they looked nice and should remain unfired. So I bought a custom speed six, & a Shorty forty to carry. We tend to have 2 or more of everything since we have been together since 1986, married in 1991, we always bought a pair of what ever we were buying. Our only discrepancy was when she bought a Ruger Redhawk 44 5.5 for wet days, and a scoped 7.5 for sunny days, while I stayed with 629's. Still carry a 20 year old Sigma F and a pair of compact Sigma 40's that were prepared by a Smith armorer when I got them. I keep trying different MP's 9,40,357,45 but have not spent enough time to get the same skill level. She has tried them also but still goes back to the Colt. Just reminiscing, sorry for the departure. Be Safe,
 
I had one many, many years ago. At the time I was on the Security Police Rifle/Pistol team at my base. One day during practice I got a wild hair and gave it a try on the 25 yard B27. Due to the risk of being called a bald faced liar I won't report my grouping but suffice to say that it surprised the heck out of me.
 
jag312 said:
You can make a small profit at a gun buy-back.
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Correct! :D

Yes, I know there are two almost diametrically opposed views on how we should deal with gun buy-backs. One camp says we are best to ignore them and they will go away. :confused: The other camp says we are best to use them to the max for getting rid of junk and using the $$$ proceeds to upgrade! :) I'll admit that I am in the latter camp, although I have yet to seize on a good opportunity. :)

The closest I ever came was when I found a pair of Ravens in a local shop for a total of $130 out the door. Those would have been worth $200 each in a Boston buy-back at the time. Total profit: $270.00 :D

Awful damn tempting! :D
 
Well to be a contrarian here let me say I would have a hard time even accepting one of those as a gift. (thought it might make me a little money at a buy-back if it was a gift.)

Due to my states ridiculous laws and the time and effort required to register and the fee a FFL would charge ($25 and up) to "legalize" my possession it realy is just not worth it.
 
Back when I was much younger, I wanted a handgun, but didn't have any money. I finally found a place that sold RG 22 revolvers, and Raven 25 Semi's. As best I remember they each sold for about $29.95.

But then I didn't have $29.95.

So I never got one.

If I ever see one like that, I might spring for it, just for old times sake.
 
There have been Saturday Night Specials around for almost as long as there have been handguns, but not by that name. For the last 50 or so years, a SNS is considered to be low in cost and made predominately from zinc alloy die castings, and by reputation, made mainly for sale to the criminal class.

I have owned two Jennings pistols. The first one I had was a .22 I bought on sale at some discount store back in the early 1980s. I don't remember the price, but I think about $50. I found it to be highly unreliable with any type or brand of .22 ammunition. It jammed more than it fired. I sold it shortly thereafter for about what I paid for it. The second Jennings was a .380 which I bought back in the early 2000s. I bought it from a neighbor who had never fired it. It came with two new full boxes of Winchester .380 ammunition. I gave him $75. As I stated earlier, it worked fine for firing the first box. After that, strange things started happening. After some looking, I found the problem. The firing pin hole had been peened down preventing the firing pin from protruding. There was a depression the diameter of the primer around the firing pin hole in breech face of the alloy slide. I drilled out the hole, but that turned out to be only a temporary solution, and I soon gave up on a fix. The slide alloy is just too soft to handle the .380 cartridge. I still have it somewhere as I couldn't bring myself to throw it away. It would have been a good personal protection gun if it had never been fired for practice. 50 rounds is a fairly short lifespan for any handgun. I think the Jennings was later sold under the Bryco and Jiminez brand names, no idea if they are still made.

I once had a neighbor who offered to give me his .25 Raven. I declined but wish I hadn't. I am sort of fond of .25 pistols. My normal carry gun is a Galesi .25 which is very reliable with CCI Blazer ammunition. I don't even know it's in my pants pocket.
 
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good to know a .25 will penetrate 1-1/2” of plywood.

I always admired the small size but never thought they were very lethal.

Anyone know which brands are dependable?
 
Nothing to be ashamed of here - the gun you pack will beat the one left at home, even if that one is a .45!

I own only one .25 auto, but only because it's a John Browning-designed collectable.

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On the other side of the coin, I believe it was Jeff Cooper who opined that if you actually have to shoot a bad guy with a .25 and he finds out about it, it may prompt him to do you harm...

John
 
Muddyboot there's no need to worry about me mocking you. Nothing wrong with buying a cheapie, pocket pistol. I've recently considered buying some sort of small caliber semi-auto just for the Hell of it. Was looking at a Beretta Tomcat .32 acp a while back, also found the Seecamp interesting. It would just be for fun as a "pea shooter" and obviously not something I'd use for serious work. Those little guns would work great with a suppressor.
 
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