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1006 vs Sig p220 10mm
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Can’t go wrong with either, both the Smith and the Sig are good guns. In my opinion, the Sig is the ‘better’ gun. It’s a more refined/better engineered, smoother gun. Only drawback is the mag capacity, but unless you’re planning on going into combat, does it really matter?
For collectibility, you can’t beat the Smith, and while I don’t own a Gen 3 10mm, I’ve shot a couple and they shoot great. I just think that Sig did a great job with the 10mm 220, they’re very well made guns. My friend has one, and I’ve shot it a few times, it’s a beauty.
I do own a Smith 645, and love the gun. 100% reliable, accurate, and a beautiful chunk of metal. Also own a P220 in .45acp, gun is flawless, great design, and very accurate. For 10mm, I’ve got a Glock 20, Glock 29, Colt Delta, and a double stack Rock River 1911. Like all of them, but that G20 is a heck of a platform for 10mm.
When I ever run across a Sig 220 in 10mm, or a Smith 1006 in the wild, I’m buying it, whichever I find first…
For collectibility, you can’t beat the Smith, and while I don’t own a Gen 3 10mm, I’ve shot a couple and they shoot great. I just think that Sig did a great job with the 10mm 220, they’re very well made guns. My friend has one, and I’ve shot it a few times, it’s a beauty.
I do own a Smith 645, and love the gun. 100% reliable, accurate, and a beautiful chunk of metal. Also own a P220 in .45acp, gun is flawless, great design, and very accurate. For 10mm, I’ve got a Glock 20, Glock 29, Colt Delta, and a double stack Rock River 1911. Like all of them, but that G20 is a heck of a platform for 10mm.
When I ever run across a Sig 220 in 10mm, or a Smith 1006 in the wild, I’m buying it, whichever I find first…
I have a 1066 and just sold the Sig P220 R 10mm SAO in SS a few months ago.
As far as durability they are both tanks. As far as performance the Sig is an amazing piece of art. I decided to only keep one since I am drastically reducing my accumulation of handguns down to just a select dozen or so.
The reason I sold the Sig and not the S&W was purely economics. I bought the P220 2 years ago for about $1K and was able to sell at an a price too embarrassing to list in writing. The SW 1066 is still valued for sale at about the price I acquired it about the same time 2 years ago. I was also in a phase where I was collecting P220 variants and 3rd Gen variants at the same time. That got expensive quickly. So when the price of buying used guns went through the roof a year or so ago I took advantage and stuck with S&W. Buy low sell high. Buy the Sig if you want the best performance.
As far as durability they are both tanks. As far as performance the Sig is an amazing piece of art. I decided to only keep one since I am drastically reducing my accumulation of handguns down to just a select dozen or so.
The reason I sold the Sig and not the S&W was purely economics. I bought the P220 2 years ago for about $1K and was able to sell at an a price too embarrassing to list in writing. The SW 1066 is still valued for sale at about the price I acquired it about the same time 2 years ago. I was also in a phase where I was collecting P220 variants and 3rd Gen variants at the same time. That got expensive quickly. So when the price of buying used guns went through the roof a year or so ago I took advantage and stuck with S&W. Buy low sell high. Buy the Sig if you want the best performance.
Frank Black
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All true, but the 4.25” model 1066 is lighter than the Sig if it might serve as an EDC gun, ... not to mention the slide-mounted decocker is less fragile than its frame-mounted docker siblings.
RufusG
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Why do you say that? I've always considered the Sig P Series guns clearly inferior to Smith semiautos design-wise, but maybe I'm alone on this.
As far as I have read, the original design concept for the Sigs was to make a gun with the most stampings possible. The slide was originally a bent piece of metal for God's sake.
That cheesy stamped plate under the grip with the loop spring that is part of the trigger mechanism always made me wonder if it was designed by the guys from HiPoint while they were dropping acid on their lunch break.
Sig had to devise their SRT so the reset was almost as good as any normal Smith had been for decades. No experience with their DAK, but I haven't heard anyone claim it's better than Smith's DAO.
And finally, the barrel on a Smith locks up like JMB intended real guns to, not like a plastic gun.
I'm happy to be educated on why I'm wrong, but I just don't see any aspect of the Sig being a better design.
Don't know the old Smiths metal semis very well, so I can't really compare the designs, but I know that guns based on one of the designs have been produced in the millions and are still manufactured and sold today. So ... 
Frank Black
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Not to mention S&W designed their single-stack 10mm mag to hold 9-rds, while the Sig 10mm mag holds one less.
Since the days of the Bren Ten, whose mag held 11-rds of 10mm goodness, it seems 10mm gun-makers have become increasingly stingy with mag capacity, at least on the single-stack frame.
The Delta Elite, a 10mm on the 1911-platform, started as 8+1 when released in 1987. But some aftermarket mag makers did offer 9-rd mags (like Wilson), so you could get to 9+1 with a DE.
Of course, 10mm guns built in frames to accept double-stack mags are well-known: Glocks, Tanfoglio Witnesses, the old Star MegaStar pistol, and now the S&W M&P.
Since the days of the Bren Ten, whose mag held 11-rds of 10mm goodness, it seems 10mm gun-makers have become increasingly stingy with mag capacity, at least on the single-stack frame.
The Delta Elite, a 10mm on the 1911-platform, started as 8+1 when released in 1987. But some aftermarket mag makers did offer 9-rd mags (like Wilson), so you could get to 9+1 with a DE.
Of course, 10mm guns built in frames to accept double-stack mags are well-known: Glocks, Tanfoglio Witnesses, the old Star MegaStar pistol, and now the S&W M&P.
RufusG
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Don't know the old Smiths metal semis very well, so I can't really compare the designs, but I know that guns based on one of the designs have been produced in the millions and are still manufactured and sold today. So ...
Well, I'll wait here patiently for someone to try to explain why that's the case.....
That is an interesting way to frame an argument and we don’t have hard data to compare but it sounds like you’re putting a lot of credence in to the full production number totals of Sig P-Series pistols and you are wanting to pit that number up against a design that started in 1955 and ran up until literally a couple of years ago.
Again, we simply don’t have the actual numbers but I can’t imagine more P-series guns have been made and sold than has the S&W 1-2-3rd Gen.
Again, we simply don’t have the actual numbers but I can’t imagine more P-series guns have been made and sold than has the S&W 1-2-3rd Gen.
I would have to vote for Sig also here.
I spend most of my time with 1911s, but did really enjoy my Sig 220 in my 10 mm forays. It is the only 10 mm that I have owned that I regret selling, and I really have no (practical) use for that model myself, but I would highly recommend it to anyone who wanted to work with that type of platform.
It does have a small capacity, but that is not a handicap in a field situation as a rule. It is an incredibly easy shooter, absolutely wonderful! It was made for things like bowling pin matches! I could not ring the accuracy out of it that I can get out of a well-tuned 1911, but it was close. Plenty close enough for anything we would ask her to do in the real world, And it did that with 100% reliability across a wide spectrum of ammunition choices. It really was just a joy to shoot.
I spend most of my time with 1911s, but did really enjoy my Sig 220 in my 10 mm forays. It is the only 10 mm that I have owned that I regret selling, and I really have no (practical) use for that model myself, but I would highly recommend it to anyone who wanted to work with that type of platform.
It does have a small capacity, but that is not a handicap in a field situation as a rule. It is an incredibly easy shooter, absolutely wonderful! It was made for things like bowling pin matches! I could not ring the accuracy out of it that I can get out of a well-tuned 1911, but it was close. Plenty close enough for anything we would ask her to do in the real world, And it did that with 100% reliability across a wide spectrum of ammunition choices. It really was just a joy to shoot.
People often mention that their particular 10mm pistol is an easy shooter.
I have to think they were only shooting the watered down commercial ammo.
Whenever I'm at the range & the neighbor lane is shooting a 10mm, & I have mine, they're almost without fail shooting commercial ammo.
On occasion I've offered to let them try my handloads, loaded to popular reloading manual specs, & invariably their eyes open wide & they readily agree there's a different between the two.
10mm is an easy shooter in my 5.6# PCC/AR CMMG Banshee but not my 42oz M1006 or worse my 27oz M1013, with full handloads, hence the reason for the 40S&W.
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I have to think they were only shooting the watered down commercial ammo.
Whenever I'm at the range & the neighbor lane is shooting a 10mm, & I have mine, they're almost without fail shooting commercial ammo.
On occasion I've offered to let them try my handloads, loaded to popular reloading manual specs, & invariably their eyes open wide & they readily agree there's a different between the two.
10mm is an easy shooter in my 5.6# PCC/AR CMMG Banshee but not my 42oz M1006 or worse my 27oz M1013, with full handloads, hence the reason for the 40S&W.
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My limited experience with the 10mm (Colt Delta Elite) was that reduced power (FBI type) ammo felt like 45 ACP 185 grain JHP loads. Full power 10mm felt more like a S&W 4 inch Model 19 shooting full power 158 grain ammo.
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