Sig P365 at the 7,500 round mark

I am a dyed-in-the-wool revolver guy, but I gotta say the many posts here on the virtues of the P365 do make me consider reconsidering...

Excellent marksmanship, Chief38. Impressive.

Thanks - the tiny Micro 9 is scary accurate with its excellent factory metal night sights. Shoots like a target gun - :)

BTW, 6 years ago you could not have torn my M60-7 from my hands. After shooting a friends P365 (new at the time), that changed in 10 minutes. After waiting about 6 month for Sig to iron out the initial issues, I pounced! The Sig is the only polymer and or striker fired gun I own. That said, I'd never go back to the Chiefs Spl. for SD. back in the day, 5 shots were probably enough. In today's world of "strangers" coming in, gangs are a real threat - even in good neighborhoods. They make 10, 12 and 17 round mag's for the gun. Most carry it with the 10 rounder and use a 12 or 17 rounder as a back up. 28 rounds with one in the pipe on your person is pretty good odds IMO.
 
The P365 doesn't do anything that other guns before it were already doing. The Sig name, marketing, and support simply made it popular. A smaller and lighter 10+1 micro 9mm with serialized chassis predates it. A small striker-fired micro 9mm with a removable serialized chassis predates it as well.

I do own a Hellcat and a S&W M&P Shield Plus, but I still choose a revolver and a traditional subcompact double stack. The Hellcat is something that I carry when I must have something smaller when I need deeper concealment; otherwise, it stays home.


FYI: The Hellcat is essentially the same size as the P365, but it's slightly lighter than the P365 and not the other way around. If not for getting a MUCH better deal price wise for a Hellcat over the P365, I'd gone with the P365. The Hellcat is cheaper than the P365 and has an extra round. I was able to pick up my Hellcat with optic cut with 6 magazines in total because of the Springfield "Gear Up" promotion for a couple of hundred less than it would have cost me to have a P365 and 6 mags in total.

The major reason why I give the P365 an edge is because Springfield Armory has a corporate policy against selling factory spare parts to consumers or third party vendors. If you need a simple spring or the like replaced, you require you send the entire gun in. I like to keep a lot of spare parts on hand for EDC guns I plan on carrying and using for many years to come. I don't want to have to ship one of my primary guns off and be without for a month when I can replace the part myself in 5 minutes or less. I also want to be covered if the model is ever discontinued. For all the aforementioned reasons, I would recommend the P365 over the Hellcat unless you get a killer deal or it's not going to be a primary.

P365
Length: 5.8 in
Height: 4.3 in
Width: 1 in
Weight: 18.5 oz

Hellcat
Length: 6 in
Height: 4.25 in
Width: 1 in
Weight: 18.3 oz

Yes, I realize they are essentially the same gun pretty much as I posted. You really can't go wrong with either one and like you state, I am not a SA policy fan either. Sig's customer service has always been revered as top notch and I rebuilt mine (the springs, striker, recoil and safety block assemblies) with OEM parts I purchased at discount from MidWest Gunworks in MO who is an authorized Sig dealer.

The Sig is also a lot more versatile and is able to be converted into many different size grip-frames and configurations if that is important to anyone here. There are also a bunch of different mag's for the P365 (up to 17 rounds) and a plethora of accessories available anywhere if those sort of things float your boat. I also prefer the Sig's standard curved trigger to the SA trigger that has the little safety in the middle of it - as I dislike them immensely! My Sig has a manual flick off safety on it as well as 2 other internal safety's just like the Hellcat, but I always get my finger pinched in Glock style trigger safety piece - on non Glocks as well.

Again, the SA Hellcat is quite similar and is an excellent EDC as well. The choice is more a personal thing than the differences between them. When I purchase a SD, EDC, CCW gun I don't give a hoot about $30, $40 or $50 bucks on the price. I will own the gun for a long long time and the pros and cons, ergonomics, reliability and the Company's reputation, service and policy's are what I pay attention to when the guns are not that far apart price wise.
 
Perhaps I missed it, but what pistol are you referring to when you say a smaller and lighter 10+1 micro 9mm with serialized chassis predates the P365?

I'd like to know myself! The Sig P365 was a revolutionary game changer in that regard. I know of no other gun that small, light and compact with 11 rounds of 9mm on board prior to it.
 
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I just read Well Armed post regarding the P-11 from Kel Tec. I had forgotten about that one simply because while it might almost meet the criteria of the P365, it was not a very reliable pistol from what I recall and never made the cut.

IMHO the P-11 isn't in the same class as the Sig P365 or SA Hellcat. Just my opinion.
 
BTW, there are usually "second class" firearms in a similar class as "first class" guns are. What I mean by that is this example below......

IMO the best .380 acp pocket pistol in its class is the Ruger LCP MAX. It holds 10+1, has great sights, is reliable, accurate and manageable by almost anyone. Taurus makes a similar model (if I recall the name might be Spectrum - but don't hold me to that) which looks and feels great in the hand, but is less reliable than an Alligator in mating season! Two of my friends own them and they have yet to be able to fire one mag's worth of ammo without a stoppage! One of them has been back to the Factory twice, the other once. They did improve them a bit but not enough to even consider carrying for SD. The Taurus is slightly smaller and lighter than the LCP Max, but holds 3 rounds less and most importantly the Ruger works, the Taurus doesn't. So I don't look at the Taurus as a viable EDC CCW or SD gun - just a "toy" or "collectible" if you will. Some might call it a paperweight.

For a newly designed gun to be viable as well as become a commercial success, it must work, live up to the hype and perform flawlessly. Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think the P-11 made the grade.
 
I, like many, carried revolvers for decades. My first venture into EDC autos was the Kahr CM9. It is a fine pistol, but when the Sig P365 came out, with the extra capacity and better trigger, I jumped on it. I shoot it better and haven't had any issues with it. I now own a few different Sig striker fired pistols and can't complain about them or the customer service. I tried to love a Glock 23, but couldn't. A Glock rep. who was trying to sell Glock 21's to a department let me shoot one when I had been on the range when they arrived, as a courtesy. It jammed and the Glock rep said that I was limp wristing it. I had just been training with a bullseye accurized 1911 beforehand and had no trouble there. I pretty much gave up on Glocks after that BS.
 
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I am admittedly, a Sig "fan-boy." Every Sig I own (210, 220, 228, 1911, 320 & 365) just work and are accurate. Not one of them has ever malfunctioned.

Chief38's earlier testimony on the 365 caused me switch from the 228 to the 365 for concealed carry. The gun hits above its weight. No complaints whatsoever and my thanks to chief38 for putting it on my RADAR.
 
...The Sig ... is able to be converted into many different size grip-frames and configurations if that is important to anyone here...
That's interesting, and important to me: I have large hands and generally replace my revolver factory grips with larger grips.
 
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That's interesting, and importany to me: I have large hands and generally replace my revolver factory grips with larger grips.

Onomea,

"The gun" is only the serial numbered Fire Control Group that fits inside the grip frame. They have so many configurations, styles, after market grip frames, barrels, triggers, with and without manual safety's, colors, blah blah blah I actually lost count! The combinations are endless and the FCG is held in by a single push pin. Swapping it out takes less than one minute!

Up until I bought this gun, I never considered a polymer, striker fired gun before. After putting over 100 rounds through my friend's gun, I could no longer ignore the HUGE benefits. I was instantly sold! ;)
 
That's interesting, and important to me: I have large hands and generally replace my revolver factory grips with larger grips.

I have skinny hands with long fingers. The small grip circumference of a stock P365 felt awkward for me handling one in the store. I've been burned that way before, buying a Star Firestar on the recommendation of others. Yes, the Star soaks up recoil very well, but its grip might have been oiled Teflon when it came to drawing from a holster. The P365 had the same feel. If there is a grip frame that makes it chunkier with the same grip length, I might be OK.

Interesting point about Springfield and their spares policy. I had no idea. I only own one, an XD, and only because it came at a price I couldn't refuse.
 
I am thinking of trying to find a large dealer, someplace that sells a lot of P365s, to see if I can try out the feel of various configurations to find a combination that feels comfortable and stable.
 
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I have skinny hands with long fingers. The small grip circumference of a stock P365 felt awkward for me handling one in the store. I've been burned that way before, buying a Star Firestar on the recommendation of others. Yes, the Star soaks up recoil very well, but its grip might have been oiled Teflon when it came to drawing from a holster. The P365 had the same feel. If there is a grip frame that makes it chunkier with the same grip length, I might be OK.

Interesting point about Springfield and their spares policy. I had no idea. I only own one, an XD, and only because it came at a price I couldn't refuse.
Wilson Combat makes a nice grip that's slightly larger and has much better feel. It fits my skinny long fingers very well.

Edit: After I posted, I saw how much pocket lint was on my pistol and immediately cleaned it. I'm so ashamed!

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I was a very early adopter of the Sig 365, purchased one within a month of them being released. Some of the early ones suffered broken firing pins from primer drag depending on the ammunition used. Sig recontoured the firing pin to address the issue (a turned radius instead of a hard shoulder).

Chief38, did your parts replacement include this component? Maybe it was part of the striker assembly?

I carry a newer 365 with the manual safety, very happy with it. I need to shoot it more than I do just for practice.

Yes Sir - the new Striker assembly does include the new firing pin design. I did have 7,500 rounds on the old style and never had a single hitch with it. I only replaced the parts at Sig's recommendation and still have all the originals as a back up.
 
BTW, if anyone here likes to do their own maintenance, you can usually save money and sometimes they even offer free shipping at Midwest Gunworks. They are official Sig Dealers so you get real deal Sig parts and they also ship quickly. If they happen to be out of a certain part, just back order it and they will let you know when it's in. their website is easy to order from as well. They are pretty good!!
 
Sig P365

Over many years, I have owned no fewer than 100 semi-auto pistols of nearly all makes. Some darn good pistols out there. A few years ago I purchased the P365X. All things considered, the Sig is the finest 9mm pistol I have ever owned. Size, performance, boringly reliable, accurate, and high quality.:)


 
Prompted by this thread, I've been reading up on P365s for the last day or so. I think I like the P365 X, which has the XL's larger handgrip and the regular P365's shorter bbl length.

Looking forward to putting my hand on an X to see if it is large enough for my large hands, or whether I will need to buy a larger grip module from a secondary source. (Which, if so, leads me to start thinking about buying just buying a 365 Fire Control Unit, and building a configuration to my liking around it.

I'm also thinking about the safety. While as I revolver guy I am unaccustomed to safeties, the idea of no safety with a semi gives me the willies.

What do you guys think about a safety or no safety with the P365, and why?
 
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I have small hands, and the 365 grip seemed to be on the small side even for me. An inexpensive Houge Handall solved that problem and continues to serve me well.

OZ
 
Prompted by this thread, I've been reading up on P365s for the last day or so. I think I like the P365 X, which has the XL's larger handgrip and the regular P365's shorter bbl length.

Looking forward to putting my hand on an X to see if it is large enough for my large hands, or whether I will need to buy a larger grip module from a secondary source. (Which, if so, leads me to start thinking about buying just buying a 365 Fire Control Unit, and building a configuration to my liking around it.

I'm also thinking about the safety. While as I revolver guy I am unaccustomed to safeties, the idea of no safety with a semi gives me the willis.

What do you guys think about a safety or no safety with the P365, and why?

Arlo, I changed out the small grip for the XL, large hands have I. The small grip will not work for you.
Being an early adopter, there was no safety option so I have what I have. I carry the 365 OWB so not really concerned.

Pocket carry in cargo shorts only, mine have big pockets. With a Remora holster.
 
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I have a X and a X Macro.
I find the X Marco grip to be large enough but would like the X to be larger.
Hogue Handall?
I’m thinking of trying one!
Don’t think anybody has mentioned the Family Baby, the P322.
Load up a 25 round Mag and shoot away like your in an Old Time B Western!
 
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