Sig P365 at the 7,500 round mark

I have large mitts,I have learned to adapt to the 365 without a problem.The P365 fits my needs.Great carry gun.
I don't see me adding any toys to her for a while.I do prefer the 12 round mag though.
 
I was a LEO form 1967 to retirement in 2010. My off duty and retirement carry was usually one of my J frames. I still own and enjoy using them. I also observed that today offenders appear with high cap mag fed Tupperware pistols.

In late 2019 I purchased a P365 w/safety that included 2-10 round and bought 2 additional 12 rd mags.

When the P365X SIG frame became available I converted to it. A simple. modification that extends the grip and allows the use of 12 round flat bottom mags.

My original 12 round mags had the pinky finger grip extension. I bought flat bottom magazine conversion kits from Sig for about $9 each.

A welcome addition to either version the P365 or P365X is a Hogue Handall Beavertail Grip Sleeve.

I have fired over 1300 rounds with absolutely no malfunctions. When first purchased I test semi-auto pistols with a mixed bag of ammo, different bullet weights etc. No problems at all.

12 + 1=13 rounds in a J frame size firearm.

I own many J, K, N frame alternatives and 1911s. The best carry firearm is the one you have with you. The others don’t count.
 
Onomea said:
One of the issues I've had with the P365 is difficulty in dropping mags with the magazine release being essentially flush or near flush to the frame. I think this is due to my large hands, plus a touch of arthritis. I installed this extended release from Armor Craft, and like it a lot:





Makes quite a difference.

I'd also like to install their extended manual safety as I'd prefer an easier safety to manipulate as well. Unfortunately, they are sold out and unsure when they'll have it in stock again.
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Was able to find an Armory Carft extended manual safety and order it from a store in California:





While I have not shot it yet with the new safety, it is a helluva lot easier for me to manipulate than the stock safety.

Meanwhile, new issue: I took my son with me to the range last week and we spent an hour or so, with him doing most of the shooting. When I was shooting, a couple of times I inadvertently hit the extended mag release. The mag stayed in my hand, slipping out just a tiny bit, and initially I did not realize what was going on, just that something was wrong as the gun wasn't operating. Once aware of the issue, it did not happen again.

I have read of this possibility as a reason not to have an extended mag release on a carry gun. I feel it is still early days for me with this gun, and I am going to see if can train myself to develop muscle memory with my grip to avoid this issue.

The other approach would be to go back to the stock mag release and break my grip when changing mags.
 
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FWIW, I have never had a problem with accidentally dropping a magazine on my bone stock P365.

It takes a very DELIBERATE and intentional press on the stock mag release button to eject a magazine.

But, IMO, that is a lot better and easier to train for than accidentally dropping the magazine with an "extended" magazine release.

It seems to me that it would be better to have to make a little extra effort to eject & replace the magazine, than to have to deal with the possibility of unexpected premature ejection of the magazine in an SD situation.

Basically it seems to me that it is better to be able to rely on the first 12 rounds being 100% trouble-free - rather than hoping to be able to make an easy reload after the first 12 rounds have been expended.

That may or not makes sense to everyone - so YMMV.
 
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BC38 said:
...Basically it seems to me that I would rather rely on the first 12 rounds being trouble-free rather than hoping to be able to make an easy reload after the first 12 rounds have been expended....
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That seems reasonable to me.

My issue with the mag release, as I note above, is that the P365 is a small gun and I have large hands. So I can't reach the mag release with the end of my thumb easily to push the release in. With the extended mag release, i can use the side of my thumb. I can't do that with the factory release.

As I wrote above, I am new to semi autos so am investing in training. I did not realize my difficulty in activating the mag release until my instructor tried to reach me, among a bunch of other things, how to drop the mag and load a new one smoothly and quickly.

It may well prove to be the case that while the extended mag release is great for increasing my proficiency in changing mags during training, it does not make sense for me, for the reasons you suggest, when EDC'ing the P365.

To be sure, I have more confidence in the extended manual safety being the right solution for me for EDC than I do in the extended mag release. But I do want to train with it some more to see how it develops.
 
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Onomea said:
That seems reasonable to me.

My issue with the mag release, as I note above, is that the P365 is a small gun and I have large hands. So I can't reach the mag release with the end of my thumb easily to push the release in. With the extended mag release, i can use the side of my thumb. I can't do that with the factory release.

As I wrote above, I am new to semi autos so am investing in training. It did not realize my difficulty in activating the mag release until my instructor tried to reach me, among a bunch of other things, how to drop the mag and load a new one smoothly and quickly.

It may well prove to be the case that while the extended mag release is great for increasing my proficiency in changing mags during training, it does not make sense for me, for the reasons you suggest, when EDC'ing the P365.

To be sure, I have more confidence in the extended manual safety being the right solution for me for EDC than I do in the extended mag release. But I do want to train with it some more to see how it develops.
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From what you are saying, it seems to me that the issue is less about the size of your hand, and more about the dexterity of your right thumb.
If you can bend the first joint of your right thumb to a 90-degree angle to place just the TIP of your thumb on the mag release, you should be able to press hard enough on the stock mag release to drop the mag.
HOWEVER, if you can't bend your thumb that way for some reason, then maybe the extended mag release is the better alternative for you.
FWIW, I have fairly big hands too - I wear a size 11 wedding ring. Although my fingers aren't especially long they are quite THICK. I inherited "sausage fingers" from my dad's side of the family.
BUT, thankfully, all my fingers - including my thumbs - are still capable of a full range of motion in every joint. Though I realize that may change as I get older. At this point I still can bend my right thumb tightly enough to use the stock mag release on my P365, but I can see where that might not be the case for everyone.
We all have to to what works for us individually at the stage of life we are in.
 
P365 is not an easy gun to learn semiautos on. I’d recommend a full size gun first, get the fundamentals down, then move to the P365.

I also have large hands and with the WC grip module and a talon, felt much more comfortable in the hand.

Very easy to see why you’d hit the extended mag release. Draw to first anatomically significant hit is much more important in a civilian SD encounter than a mag change. Mag changes almost never happen in civilian SD situations.

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I've loved my Sig 365 from the very beginning and I had a Shield before it that I thought was excellent but the Sig is just better but also a lot more expensive. Mine has a safety and a very light trigger pull which I am quite happy with but I would not feel comfortable if it did not have the safety. I liked it so much I bought the 365 XL and installed a Holosun optic but unfortunately it does not have near as good a trigger as the little 365.
 
I've been carry a Macro with safety since late last year. The only mod I've made is Ameriglo sights that my eyes can see...and I've replaced that silly straight trigger with the OEM curved one. Now, that said....

I got my mitts around the new FUSE version the other day. They upgraded the frame texture dramatically. It's fantastic. I hope they offer a safety-version of the model eventually.
 
I've been carrying a P365, manual safety, night sights, with a Streamlight TLR-6 laser/flashlight in a pocket holster since they 1st were sold. Now I love my Smiths, Colts, and numerous other brands, but the P365 works for me. 12 rd magazine and one in the chamber.
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VictorLouis said:
..I got my mitts around the new FUSE version the other day. They upgraded the frame texture dramatically. It's fantastic. I hope they offer a safety-version of the model eventually.
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I have learned that all P365 Fire Control Units (FCUs), the part of the gun that is classified as the firearm, regardless of model, are the same. Fitting a manual safety to an FCU, or removing one, is fairly simple. (Instructions on YouTube). I just did this with an extended safety, removing the stock safety and putting in an extended safety.

I have also read that newer grip modules, if not already cut for safety installation, are marked as to where the cut needs to take place.
 
Onomea said:
I have learned that all P365 Fire Control Units (FCUs), the part of the gun that is classified as the firearm, regardless of model, are the same. Fitting a manual safety to an FCU, or removing one, is fairly simple. (Instructions on YouTube). I just did this with an extended safety, removing the stock safety and putting in an extended safety.

I have also read that newer grip modules, if not already cut for safety installation, are marked as to where the cut needs to take place.
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Does the extended safety allow use of the same holsters as the factory safety?
 
ladder13 said:
Does the extended safety allow use of the same holsters as the factory safety?
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Depends on the holster brand. Companies like Vedder have different holsters for each. Some companies make a holster applicable to both.

Edit: Vedder offers both. It also depends on holster style.
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Mike, I am working on that.

I asked the question to DeSantis re their Viper 2.0 on Thursday. They asked for pix their COB Friday and said they'd respond Monday. I'll come back with what they tell me.

In the case of my Vedders pocket holster, yes, their model for a stock safety fits the extended safety just fine. (I've been pocket carrying. I'm finding that the Galco slide I got, while fine for the range, prints too much for concealed carry. I think this is likely because it is vertical/no cant and I use the larger grip module.)

I'm also considering a Lobo Enhanced Pancake so will likely ask them the question next week, too.
 
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