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I have 2 old smith and wesson 38 single action pistols that I know nothing about. First one has serial number on end of grip S.505.
The other has serial number J1333 on end of grip.
Any info on these appreciated. Was handed down to me.
 
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Photos would be really helpful. If that is indeed a S&W J1333 That would be a J Frame serial and date to 1969. As for the other one I am not familiar. Also, as for value that would be contingent on the model and condition.
 
First thing:
If they have cylinders, they are not pistols, they’re revolvers.
I'm not sure of your source on that information. A pistol is generally any short barreled firearm designed to be shot with one hand. Certainly, revolvers have cylinders, but it is still proper to call them pistols.
 
Hi There,

First thing:
If they have cylinders, they are not pistols, they’re revolvers.

I have to agree. A pistol is a hand gun in which the chamber is an
integral part of the barrel. So, most automatics are "pistols" by
definition along with most single shots (and I guess technically, a
"pepper box" would be a pistol too).

Cheers!
Webb
 
Hi There,

I think it is Society just being lazy and using "pistol" when "hand gun"
is more suitable. Sort of like using Irregardless.

Cheers!
Webb
Actually, the term pistol goes back around the 15th century.

From the NRA:

The word pistol may have come from the name of a small town, Pistoia, in southern Italy, where handguns were manufactured in the 15th and 16th centuries. This probably inspired the French words pistole or pistolet, which seem to be the likely inspiration for the word in English. However, some scholars attribute its origin to the Russian word for a 15th-century matchlock gun: pischol. And, there are some researchers that believe the word may derive from the Czechoslovakian word píšťala, which means pipe or tube. (The Píšťala was a 15th-century hand cannon that became well knows due to its use during the Hussite Revolution.)

According to Merriam-Webster Online, “Pistol comes from the Middle French word pistole, from German, from Middle High German pischulle, from Czech píšťala, literally, pipe, fife; akin to Czech pištět to squeak.”

Regardless of the true origin of the term, a common definition today for the word pistol is “a gun that has a short barrel and can be held, aimed and fired with one hand.”

Many different types of pistols exist, including revolvers, semi-automatics, muzzleloaders, hinge-actions, bolt-actions and air pistols. Two types of pistols dominate the shooting scene today: revolvers and semi-automatics.

One final note—although the word pistol is frequently associated with semi-automatic handguns, it is proper to use pistol to refer to all types of handguns.
 
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Actually, the term pistol goes back around the 15th century.

From the NRA:

The word pistol may have come from the name of a small town, Pistoia, in southern Italy, where handguns were manufactured in the 15th and 16th centuries. This probably inspired the French words pistole or pistolet, which seem to be the likely inspiration for the word in English. However, some scholars attribute its origin to the Russian word for a 15th-century matchlock gun: pischol. And, there are some researchers that believe the word may derive from the Czechoslovakian word píšťala, which means pipe or tube. (The Píšťala was a 15th-century hand cannon that became well knows due to its use during the Hussite Revolution.)

According to Merriam-Webster Online, “Pistol comes from the Middle French word pistole, from German, from Middle High German pischulle, from Czech píšťala, literally, pipe, fife; akin to Czech pištět to squeak.”

Regardless of the true origin of the term, a common definition today for the word pistol is “a gun that has a short barrel and can be held, aimed and fired with one hand.”

Many different types of pistols exist, including revolvers, semi-automatics, muzzleloaders, hinge-actions, bolt-actions and air pistols. Two types of pistols dominate the shooting scene today: revolvers and semi-automatics.

One final note—although the word pistol is frequently associated with semi-automatic handguns, it is proper to use pistol to refer to all types of handguns.
And let’s recall that when the first revolvers were developed the public commonly referred to them as ‘revolving pistols.’ The hard distinction between pistols and revolvers is a modern convention, not an historical one. (‘Are ya gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie?’)
 
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