Ruger Redhawk replacing S&W 25-5 (.45s and family)

I absolutely dislike the grip of the Ruger Redhawk. I used to own one in .45 Colt. Ended up sending it Hamilton Bowen where he swapped out its barrel into a Ruger Alaskan in .454 Casull. Bowen makes the conversions of that particular line of Ruger SuperRedhawk frames and the results are wonderful. I still love my S&W 25-5, but I carry my Bowen Ruger .454 Casull when in bear country.
 
I like 45 Colts. I have the following:

25-5 8 3/8"

25-9 4" This one was Electroless Nickle plated and I won some Kurac grips on the forum years ago.
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Ruger Vaquero with 45 Colt cylinder and 45 ACP cylinder which has 6 shots thru it

Ruger New Model Blackhawk 7 1/2" 45 Colt

I also have a 460 S&W Mag XVR that I have used with 45 Colt. It came with 2 boxes of ammo with 6 rounds missing.

I had a 454 Super Redhawk that I sold to a friend.
 
The 25-5 found it's new home today. Honestly, not quite the way I imagined. He had to be convinced to accept it, and I think he was just really taken by surprise.

I think I could really like this Redhawk! It's a smooth shooter with an amazing action! The .45 ACP is fun, and versatile, if not tack driving accurate. running the stout loads through it without worry is nice too. It's been many years since I've had a gun like that.

I do with it was a bit...thinner. if it weighed 2-4oz less it'd be an immediate favorite. As is, it's a perfect gun for woods romping. Heck, it's got me almost in a Ruger kick. I'm finding myself in want of another GP-100 lately!
The Redhawk is no lightweight! I have a stainless 7.5" in 44mag that's a pleasure to shoot stout loads with and it weighing 54oz helps!
Get GP100, you'll love it! I have one with a 4" bbl and it just feels really good.
Glad you gave your dad his dream gun.
 
Another cheap option is picking up an H harness. Shown below is one of my generic setups for what I'm out on the family farm. The harness takes the weight from being all on the hips or pulling down your pants.

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How you liking that Scout setup? I have one that I'm taking the rail off and putting on a surplus guard to give it a Tanker look and feel.
 
I got the Ruger Redhawk in 45 colt/45 acp, took it to the range and it took 18 trigger pulls to fire the cylinder. Wrote that up filling out my warranty card and got a call from Ruger the next day. They said to send it in and I did. Got it back and it still wasn’t 100 percent. I took a little more off the face of the hammer above the transfer bar slot and it’s close so I do carry it in a chest holster in bear country.
 
The Redhawk is no lightweight! I have a stainless 7.5" in 44mag that's a pleasure to shoot stout loads with and it weighing 54oz helps!
Get GP100, you'll love it! I have one with a 4" bbl and it just feels really good.
Glad you gave your dad his dream gun.
Thanks for the kind word! As it turns out, I've got a GP-100. That design is what I believe may be the most solid .357 I've ever known. I got fortunate in it's being a bit of an oddball. half lug barrel, DAO, and fixed sights. Hard to get more rugged and simple than that, me thinks. I mentioned it here:

Thanks for the kind word! As it turns out, I've got a GP-100. That design is what I believe may be the most solid .357 I've ever known. I got fortunate in it's being a bit of an oddball. stainless, half lug barrel, DAO, and fixed sights. Hard to get more rugged and simple than that, me thinks. It was a Canadian Police issue. Many folks like to say RCMP, but I think it was one of the bigger cities. (Although RCMP does somehow seem cooler)

I have been thinking I need one of those blued GP 100 7 shooters too though. They're about as attractive as the DA Rugers are gunna get.
 
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I have a 25-5, a Redhawk, a Blackhawk and a Vaquero, all in .45 Colt (or as some of yous guys say, a .45 Long Colt). That caliber is my favorite.

I took many deer with the scoped 7 1/2" Blackhawk, but now have switched to the Redhawk with a reflex site. All using "Ruger Only" loads.
 
Just ended up with the model 5050 Redhawk 45/45acp. Davidsons had a good deal, and it was shipped to a local dealer that let me check it out before doing the transfer. No flaws but our forests are in a stage II restriction and no shooting, the one indoor range is lead free and their ammo only. So, until the summer rains start or I drive over 100 miles to a range it will just have to wait. Because of some of the problems with the moon clips and misfires considering with going to the .45 auto rim case. Have the twin to it a limited run by Davidsons in .41 mag caliber that it very pleasant to shoot. Also have two 5.5" Redhawks in .41 mag caliber that are very accurate. My Smiths are one stainless 29, two nickel model 29's a nickel 19-4 and my grandfather's pre model 15.
Ended up putting the Hogue grips on the .45 similar to the ones that came on the .41 mag.

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Thanks for the kind word! As it turns out, I've got a GP-100. That design is what I believe may be the most solid .357 I've ever known. I got fortunate in it's being a bit of an oddball. half lug barrel, DAO, and fixed sights. Hard to get more rugged and simple than that, me thinks. I mentioned it here:

Thanks for the kind word! As it turns out, I've got a GP-100. That design is what I believe may be the most solid .357 I've ever known. I got fortunate in it's being a bit of an oddball. stainless, half lug barrel, DAO, and fixed sights. Hard to get more rugged and simple than that, me thinks. It was a Canadian Police issue. Many folks like to say RCMP, but I think it was one of the bigger cities. (Although RCMP does somehow seem cooler)

I have been thinking I need one of those blued GP 100 7 shooters too though. They're about as attractive as the DA Rugers are gunna get.
Thanks for the kind word! As it turns out, I've got a GP-100. That design is what I believe may be the most solid .357 I've ever known. I got fortunate in it's being a bit of an oddball. half lug barrel, DAO, and fixed sights. Hard to get more rugged and simple than that, me thinks. I mentioned it here:

Thanks for the kind word! As it turns out, I've got a GP-100. That design is what I believe may be the most solid .357 I've ever known. I got fortunate in it's being a bit of an oddball. stainless, half lug barrel, DAO, and fixed sights. Hard to get more rugged and simple than that, me thinks. It was a Canadian Police issue. Many folks like to say RCMP, but I think it was one of the bigger cities. (Although RCMP does somehow seem cooler)

I have been thinking I need one of those blued GP 100 7 shooters too though. They're about as attractive as the DA Rugers are gunna get.

Thanks for the kind word! As it turns out, I've got a GP-100. That design is what I believe may be the most solid .357 I've ever known. I got fortunate in it's being a bit of an oddball. half lug barrel, DAO, and fixed sights. Hard to get more rugged and simple than that, me thinks. I mentioned it here:

Thanks for the kind word! As it turns out, I've got a GP-100. That design is what I believe may be the most solid .357 I've ever known. I got fortunate in it's being a bit of an oddball. stainless, half lug barrel, DAO, and fixed sights. Hard to get more rugged and simple than that, me thinks. It was a Canadian Police issue. Many folks like to say RCMP, but I think it was one of the bigger cities. (Although RCMP does somehow seem cooler)

I have been thinking I need one of those blued GP 100 7 shooters too though. They're about as attractive as the DA Rugers are gunna get.
I have a French tuen-in SP101 with Trausch grips and it is tight as a vault. I don;t think that it was shot very much.
Oh, a;so have a Manuhrin stainless MR88 but it wasn;t in as good a shape as the SP101.
 
The Redhawk won't work with .45 Auto Rim and its thicker rims. It should in theory work with .45 Winchester Magnum, since Starline brass will fit into common moonclips. Given the Redhawk's various ignition shortcomings I always wondered how well it worked with moonclips. Headspacing on the moonclips is never ideal but should work if everything else is set up properly. Much will depend on the quality of the chambers and how much room there is for the cartridges to wiggle.
 
My first tedhawk in 45 colt came to me after I got assigned to the 2nd MarDiv out of Camp Lejeune NC . Found it in a lgs new, expensive, but appealing. Put it on layaway. Since then, I nown have 11. I had 12, but my niece, who graduated Parris Island last November wanted one along with one of my oem Colt ar15a2s. Lol, the redhawk weighs almost as much as my niece.
 
The Redhawk won't work with .45 Auto Rim and its thicker rims. It should in theory work with .45 Winchester Magnum, since Starline brass will fit into common moonclips. Given the Redhawk's various ignition shortcomings I always wondered how well it worked with moonclips. Headspacing on the moonclips is never ideal but should work if everything else is set up properly. Much will depend on the quality of the chambers and how much room there is for the cartridges to wiggle.
The only thing I own that uses moon-clips is a stainless Speed Six in 9mm. Still unfired in the box. I'll take her out to the range. Screenshot_20250619_185724_Gallery.jpgScreenshot_20250619_185728_Gallery.jpgScreenshot_20250619_185737_Gallery.jpg
 
I used to read Chuck Taylor's articles in various gun rags. The more I read, the more skeptical I became of his writings. I'm not saying that Model 25 will blow up using Ruger 45 Colt loads, but I doubt it would prove to be durable over the long run. The thinnest part of the S&W cylinder is in the stop notch, how long before that thin steel bends to the pressure of hot loads, causing a swelling in the chamber?
I don't know I just know that it worked for him. He was a respected authority and a Ranger from Nam. I'll take his word for it.
 
“ My target goal for wilderness carry is 300 grains at 1K FPS from a 4". bbl.”

This can be accomplished with “tier 2” loads (23k psi) which the M-25 can handle. In Brian Pearce’s Handloader article he had loads slightly higher in velocity using Longshot, Power Pistol, and TCM powder. My only issue with 300 gr. bullets in M-25 is they shoot too high.

Dan
 
I can't come to grips with your first sentence...........More powerful than a 44 mag with heavy bullets?.........Show me the ballistics.


Jeff Quinn: gunblast.com, The .45 Colt Bisley: Ruger's Workhorse. May18,
2004

John Linebaugh: Gunnotes - Heavyweight Bullets Part 1
John Linebaugh: The .45 Colt, Dissolving the Myth, Discovering the Potential. sixgunner.com

Ross Seyfried: Shootout! .45 Colt vs. 44 Mag. Guns & Ammo Magazine, Jan 1995
 
Jeff Quinn: gunblast.com, The .45 Colt Bisley: Ruger's Workhorse. May18,
2004

John Linebaugh: Gunnotes - Heavyweight Bullets Part 1
John Linebaugh: The .45 Colt, Dissolving the Myth, Discovering the Potential. sixgunner.com

Ross Seyfried: Shootout! .45 Colt vs. 44 Mag. Guns & Ammo Magazine, Jan 1995
Your gun......Your loads..........Just don't blow it up trying to make a 44 mag out of it.
 
I was introduced to the S&W Model 25-5 as a young lad. Probably 12 years old or so. My Father came home from his night shift with a huge, shiny black revolver that he was thrilled about. a North Georgia Police Department had traded them in, and he picked his up for $200. He tells me the department that traded them in had moved to a 9mm of some configuration. Shortly afterwards some officers had serious issues stopping assailants with them, got riddled with lawsuits for excessive force, and the Officers in the field were pining away for their old .45 Colts. I dunno that I fully believe that story, but it's fun to consider. My Father found that model 25 much to his liking. It delivered alot of power without excessive recoil. He shot it regularly with his buddies that were smitten with the .44 mag. Though we know hot rodding was starting up for the .45 Colt, most common fellas were not partaking of that trend, least of all, my Father. He was always being told how underpowered it was, and the bullets didn't even move fast enough to expand reliably. The oversized cylinder throats weren't even known, or he would have heard plenty about that too. My Father believed there was only one level of dead, and anything that walked, crawled, or slithered in the state of Georgia could be made so with that round. His practical experience shooting deer, wild dogs, and various vermin around the spread proved him out, and gave him confidence in it. Additionally, he acquitted himself quite well with it around his shooting buddies, despite it being such a weak, antiquated old thing. It's hard to tell how much I saw him shoot and carry that thing, but it was enough for me to form quite the association between my Father, and that heavy old revolver.

I was probly....sixteen or so when we started coming to Alaska every chance we got. We were camped out in Talkeetna visiting some friends and doing some fishing when my Father handed it to me to carry. He himself had a 629 that he could just flat out handle better than me. I had been raised in a "Proper" Southern kinda way, and didn't normally get to use or carry a handgun in my youth. When he passed that .45 Colt to me, I felt ten foot tall and bullet proof. I guess my Father's change of thinking really came through some time later when I got a short barrel 870 shotgun with a magazine extension for bear protection.

As the next couple years went by, I still got to carry that old gun from time to time when we were out doing things in the woods. Eventually, my older brother ended up taking a job in Arizona and needed a gun for protection, and my Father sent him off with that one. He did some tough living down there. It's never been discussed much, but during the year or two he was down there, the 25-5 was stolen.

I went through a ridiculous slew of handguns when I got old enough to carry. I went through the 1911 phase, Glock phase, Sig phase, and Heaven only knows what else. There were weeks when my closet saw more fresh guns than my feet saw fresh socks. I finally settled into revolvers about 2009 or so. It was then that I decided there was a hole in my heart that could only be filled by a S&W .45 Colt. I eventually ended up with a 625-9 Mountain Gun. It is a quality gun that I still use today. Accurate, powerful, reliable, easy to carry, etc. Heck, I regularly carried it for five years. Unfortunately, I found that it did not scratch that itch left by the 25-5. My Father came to miss that gun as well, but he's on a fixed income, and they remained beyond what he could bring himself to pay. He and I both have done without for many years, and had many wistful conversations about that thing.

About a year ago, I finally found one I could afford right here on these forums. It was clean, well kept, seller was honest, price was right. This one had been touched by the hand of Hamilton Bowen, had Weigand front sights, and a slew of extra speed loaders and brass. It shoots really well. I was fortunate enough to have Steelslaver bore me out a proper cylinder for it, but have not seen the need for it yet. It was a dream come true. I remain wildly in love with that revolver, sometimes worrying myself with the level of affinity I could find for an inanimate object. But...there has been something off. I have my bucket list 25-5, but the man who inspired my love for that gun does not.
I have spent months agonizing over the matter, and I'm finally resolved to action. My Father is turning 81 next week. He will be receiving my bucket list 25-5 for his Birthday. Some friends joke that I will get it back one day. I'm not so sure, and I don't expect so. Things happen, and when you give something away, you have to completely let go of it, otherwise I feel that it falls short as a gift in a Karmic kinda way.

As part of me letting go, I resolved to find another .45 Colt. Rather than finding a similar one that would likely always fall short, I went in a bit of a new direction with a Ruger Redhawk in .45 Colt/.45 ACP. It's just...a different gun entirely, but not without it's assets. It's amazingly smooth, and well timed. I like that I can basically use it as a garbage disposal for any .45 that rolls off my bench that isn't questionably charged or something similarly dangerous. As much as I've loved the S&W .45 Colts throughout the years, I have kinda burned out on the hot load controversy with them. It'll be nice to run some hot and snotty Buffalo Bore heavies without voices in the back of my head taunting "You'll blow your hand off!" The .45 Colt will always have a home with me, whether it's in my Mountain Gun or the Redhawk. At this point, I just plan to keep the Mountain Gun handy when more bipedal threats are to be considered, and carry the Redhawk when I know I'm going deep into big bear country. I'll be giving the 25-5 away with some middle of the road 255 grain KSWC all arounders that I've loaded up, and a couple boxes of 200 grain Barnes hollow points. I suspect he'll keep it loaded with hollow points around his house or motorhome. If he gives it away to some random stranger, I'll come to peace with that too.
to hear about it. I'll eventually post some pics for fun, but current circumstances won't allow that.

If anyone has their own tales to share about sacrificing beloved guns, or would like to tell me how amazingly awesome the Ruger Redhawk in .45 Colt is, I'll be eagerly listening.
I absolutely love my Redhawks. One in 44 mag and two in 45 Colt. When hunting in the national forests the 5 1/2 inch in 45 comes with me.
 

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