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Everything about these has already been said. Absolutely amazing Target guns that continue to amaze me. If you do your part these guns will hollow out a single hole anywhere between 5-50 yards. I compared them to a sig master shop and these guns are nicer and fitted tighter with better triggers.


I'm including some pics of my WISCHO 745 . I still haven't seen another that was exported and back in the states yet . 1000011900.jpg1000011901.jpg
 
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I wonder what type of target shooting they did with these pistols in Germany and Europe. I’ve always pictured it as some type of indoor bullseye, but I really don’t know. Great collections guys! Here are pictures of my 845 and 5906 Target Champions.
 

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The standard discipline for large-caliber pistols and revolvers in Germany is called the "25m Pistol." It consists of 40 scoring shots and five sighting shots at the very beginning.

Twenty shots are fired at a precision target, followed by four series of five shots within 20 seconds at a target with rings twice the size of the precision target.

In the best case, 400 rings can be achieved; the German record is 396/400 at the German Championships in Munich-Hochbrück.

As for the S&W Target Champion pistols, these models as 6-inch pistols are quite rare.
In the 9mm Luger class, the SIG 210 variants still dominate.
1911/2011 pistols are fired in .45 AUTO, and some CZ 97s are also seen more frequently.
Among revolvers, the 686 Smith Wesson and 629 are the most common, with Korth, Janz, and Manurhin also seen for those who can afford them.

I have uploaded two photos of the targets for the classic 25m pistol discipline so you can get an impression.
 

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FT1837 said:
The standard discipline for large-caliber pistols and revolvers in Germany is called the "25m Pistol." It consists of 40 scoring shots and five sighting shots at the very beginning.

Twenty shots are fired at a precision target, followed by four series of five shots within 20 seconds at a target with rings twice the size of the precision target.

In the best case, 400 rings can be achieved; the German record is 396/400 at the German Championships in Munich-Hochbrück.

As for the S&W Target Champion pistols, these models as 6-inch pistols are quite rare.
In the 9mm Luger class, the SIG 210 variants still dominate.
1911/2011 pistols are fired in .45 AUTO, and some CZ 97s are also seen more frequently.
Among revolvers, the 686 Smith Wesson and 629 are the most common, with Korth, Janz, and Manurhin also seen for those who can afford them.

I have uploaded two photos of the targets for the classic 25m pistol discipline so you can get an impression.
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Thank you for the information. Is this usually shot indoors or outdoors? That’s amazing shooting to score a 396/400 on those targets at 25 meters. How wide is one of the scoring rings?
 
Most shooting ranges are indoors and non-commercial, meaning they are run by volunteer club members. Therefore, the range of shooting ranges, their equipment, and their structural characteristics are very broad.

The shooting range where I train is located in a former cinema; the auditorium has been converted, and where the screen used to be is now a bullet trap.

The largest shooting range is the Olympic Shooting Range in Munich Hochbrück. Here's are two videos from the German Championships. At 0:55, you can see the pistol hall. It's partially open; the shooter stands under cover at the front, but the ceiling is open.


Second video shows some views from inside the pistol range.


Scoring rings on precision target is 25mm wide.
 
Thank you, the videos are great. My high school German classes helped me to understand approximately 20 words. 😂 In the late 1990’s I was able to tour the Olympic venues in Munich but we didn’t get to see the shooting ranges.

Last question, do you know how these S&W target champion pistols are making it back to the United States for us to buy here? Are clubs or individuals trading them in to buy newer equipment?
 
Kind of makes sense now why CZ came out with their new Shadow 2 SAO Target model with either a 5" or 6" barrel and no optics cut. Looks like this type of shooting is iron sights only. The pistol has yet to hit the shores of the USA. I wonder what they have for restrictions in ammunition?
Rick H
 
Okay, truth is that I knew I had seen it before, and I had to dig to find it:

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This was how the semiautomatic side of the Performance Center was slated to begin and while I would imagine that some of these must exist, S&W realized quickly that full blown custom spec’d out pistols wasn’t going to be profitable or feasible for the PC.

I cannot say I have basically ANY knowledge base of these earliest examples beyond this picture (I wish I did!) but there’s that hole in the slide stop and why it piqued my interest when I saw your picture.
 
Joedegs , did your 40Limited go across the big pond and make it back ? Looks like proof marks from where they inspect it , but not quite sure . Mine made the trip , and I've been looking for any others . I was told only 5 made the trip , but who knows . As few as they made , they couldn't have shipped too many .
 
cherrypointmarine said:
Joedegs , did your 40Limited go across the big pond and make it back ? Looks like proof marks from where they inspect it , but not quite sure . Mine made the trip , and I've been looking for any others . I was told only 5 made the trip , but who knows . As few as they made , they couldn't have shipped too many .
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Yes, the 4006 limited is an export/import with export/import marks. The US import mark is hidden above the mag well on the frame at the mag entrance. Not sure how many as well, I’ve only seen yours and mine.
 
hoytx10 said:
do you know how these S&W target champion pistols are making it back to the United States for us to buy here? Are clubs or individuals trading them in to buy newer equipment?
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These weapons are purchased by private individuals on the German market and exported to the USA. It's an expensive undertaking, as customs duties and export permits are required for each weapon, but it's worth it since prices in the USA are ridiculously high. A pistol that sold for $2,000 in Germany is offered on gunbroker for $3,500-4,500.

Clubs with their own weapons tend not to purchase such pistols; they are simply too expensive and refined for general use. In the large-caliber range, 6-inch versions of the CZ75 SAO, Heckler Koch USP Expert/Elite, 1911 variants, and many Smith 686 revolvers are commonly purchased for the club. The most common club weapon is the Walther GSP in .22lr: inexpensive, accurate, and endless spare parts.

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6 inch Waffen Oschatz Target Champions. 9mm Luger and .45 Auto
 

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FT1837 said:
These weapons are purchased by private individuals on the German market and exported to the USA. It's an expensive undertaking, as customs duties and export permits are required for each weapon, but it's worth it since prices in the USA are ridiculously high. A pistol that sold for $2,000 in Germany is offered on gunbroker for $3,500-4,500.

Clubs with their own weapons tend not to purchase such pistols; they are simply too expensive and refined for general use. In the large-caliber range, 6-inch versions of the CZ75 SAO, Heckler Koch USP Expert/Elite, 1911 variants, and many Smith 686 revolvers are commonly purchased for the club. The most common club weapon is the Walther GSP in .22lr: inexpensive, accurate, and endless spare parts.

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6 inch Waffen Oschatz Target Champions. 9mm Luger and .45 Auto
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I’ve never seen an 845TC with a 6” Waffen barrel. Your 5906TC was build with the 3/4 dust cover. I like the way it’s blended in.
 
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