My 686 Mountain Gun just came in as well and picked it up. Now I need to get time to test the 44 and 357. I also have the Colt Kodiak that I want to get out and shoot. I might just have to have a sick day soon! I will post some results of running various types of ammunition through them. I am very curious about comparison between the Colt and Smith. I really like the feel of the 357 mountain gun.
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And here is one of those shiny new ones.Wow, So due to internet gripes/chatter, you sold your new revolver without ever firing it?
I've had my MG to the range now a couple times, using .357 and .38 Spcl. factory ammo. As I mentioned, POI is low, but otherwise everything works quite well. Glad I bought it, and have no desire to sell or trade it on the next shiny thing that catches my eye
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Got this add today. I am one who believes that every person who owns a big gun, should have a copy in 22, just for training, and fun, and fun, and training and fun and teaching others to have fun.
Rick O'Shea
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Yeah, I just got the same email with the 617 and the 610.And here is one of those shiny new ones.
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What's killing me is,
1.) those are the main two models that I have been craving, to the point of even buying them with the lock, and..
2.) now I'm seeing all these reports of QC issues, and..
3.) I don't have $2500 floating around.
Yendor357
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I wrote post #6.
I have a 629-4 Mountain Gun. It’s fantastic. An engineering marvel. A work of art. I run 240 XTPs and 429421s at 1200+ FPS. I don’t think it recoils any more than a regular 4 inch 629.
The 686 Plus MG is a fabulous concept. (I’d love to have one in a 3.5”)
I am glad others got a good one. I remember when ALL smiths were good.
The lemon I got must have been the last one off the line, scraping the bottom of the barrel for whatever junk parts they could come up with to cobble together something that looked somewhat like a revolver.
The underneath of the trigger guard and frame look like that area didn’t get a final polish. The side plate screw unscrewed itself.
The (1)loose screw, (2)missing gold bead, (3) polishishing the trigger guard, (4) too low rear sight blade, and even (5) sticky action are all easy fixes. (6) But that .028” gap between the frame and crane….I'm worried about whether or not they will fix that.
I still have high hopes that when it comes back, it’ll have a clean bill of health. Like I said, it’s a great concept.
I have a 629-4 Mountain Gun. It’s fantastic. An engineering marvel. A work of art. I run 240 XTPs and 429421s at 1200+ FPS. I don’t think it recoils any more than a regular 4 inch 629.
The 686 Plus MG is a fabulous concept. (I’d love to have one in a 3.5”)
I am glad others got a good one. I remember when ALL smiths were good.
The lemon I got must have been the last one off the line, scraping the bottom of the barrel for whatever junk parts they could come up with to cobble together something that looked somewhat like a revolver.
The underneath of the trigger guard and frame look like that area didn’t get a final polish. The side plate screw unscrewed itself.
The (1)loose screw, (2)missing gold bead, (3) polishishing the trigger guard, (4) too low rear sight blade, and even (5) sticky action are all easy fixes. (6) But that .028” gap between the frame and crane….I'm worried about whether or not they will fix that.
I still have high hopes that when it comes back, it’ll have a clean bill of health. Like I said, it’s a great concept.
I am glad to Smith moving in the right direction, but I am glad I have my 629-2, 625-6. As far as 10mm, I have a 5” 610 ND that scratches that itch. Other than aesthetics, the slight weight difference isn’t noticeable in a chest rig. I just carried my 625-6 45 Colt through the Sierras on a 4 day trek. Didn’t know it was there. I flipped a coin between the MGs, other 4 and 5 inch N frames and my 4” Kodiak. 
My experience with one of the new Mountain guns.
I started my search for a 629 .44mag at a dealer local to me.
A Smith and Wesson and a Lipsey exclusive dealer gun shop. This was in January when all the podcasts and hype was getting started about these firearms. The owner of the shop told me that the guns were allocated meaning he could get 1 or none, maybe he would get 6 or more.
He put my name on the waiting list.
Fast forward to June 11th.
He called me said he had one.
It was dirty, looked like it had a half box of 50 rounds shot through it. I bought it anyway.
Decided to give it a good cleaning, took the grips off and found they were busted and had been glued together in a few places. And not in a few other places.
See pics.
The broken part was actually pushing against the flat spring inside the grip frame.
I decided to e mail Lipsey, hats off to them, they had me a new set with in a week.
I will sum this up,
I thought these guns were going to be special, top of line, making a fella smile from ear to ear whenever it was held in the hand.
It shoots well, the brass bead in the front sight is still there, I still like S&W.
BUT in the future I will not get excited when I hear Lipsey, Tyler Gun Works, Smith and Wesson or any other brand of gun in the same sentence.
No one cares anymore, no quality control whatsoever.
I have bought nicer, cleaner guns at Dunham sports for well under half the cost.
I still like S&W firearms, I just feel they should have done a lot better on this collaboration.
Their reputation for producing the best firearms just slipped closer to the bottom of my list.
I started my search for a 629 .44mag at a dealer local to me.
A Smith and Wesson and a Lipsey exclusive dealer gun shop. This was in January when all the podcasts and hype was getting started about these firearms. The owner of the shop told me that the guns were allocated meaning he could get 1 or none, maybe he would get 6 or more.
He put my name on the waiting list.
Fast forward to June 11th.
He called me said he had one.
It was dirty, looked like it had a half box of 50 rounds shot through it. I bought it anyway.
Decided to give it a good cleaning, took the grips off and found they were busted and had been glued together in a few places. And not in a few other places.
See pics.
The broken part was actually pushing against the flat spring inside the grip frame.
I decided to e mail Lipsey, hats off to them, they had me a new set with in a week.
I will sum this up,
I thought these guns were going to be special, top of line, making a fella smile from ear to ear whenever it was held in the hand.
It shoots well, the brass bead in the front sight is still there, I still like S&W.
BUT in the future I will not get excited when I hear Lipsey, Tyler Gun Works, Smith and Wesson or any other brand of gun in the same sentence.
No one cares anymore, no quality control whatsoever.
I have bought nicer, cleaner guns at Dunham sports for well under half the cost.
I still like S&W firearms, I just feel they should have done a lot better on this collaboration.
Their reputation for producing the best firearms just slipped closer to the bottom of my list.
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Sorry to read about your bad experience. I read of another case with very poor fitting Bear Hugs that Tyler took care of but nothing like yours. I wonder if this one could have been returned and was just sent out to your LGS?
I’m happy to see Smith and Wesson making positive choices like no lock revolvers and these new Mountain guns. There are several Smiths that I am interested in buying. I hope that these QC issues are the exception, with lots of scrutiny due to the internet, and I hope production smoothest out with time. I have not lived in grizzly country for awhile, but I still enjoy my 625-6 Mountain
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Th 629 MG I got recent had to go back to S&W but this 686 MG I just picked up a couple days ago and took to the range this AM has been just fine.
So, if you live in the flatlands, can you still benefit from a mountain gun?
That is an outstanding revolver and the grips are just gorgeous 
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I get that this is nitpicky but OP, the front sight is a Patridge, not a Partridge.
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Very sorry for all you fellows having so many problems with the new MG!
But, I do appreciate y'all fellows doing all this quality assurance for S&W and not getting paid! (Sarcasm)
Maybe after they work out all the QC issues that yall are helping them with I might consider getting a 686. Probably next year or maybe just fork out the cash for one of the old ones?
Seems that Lipseys is doing a great job coming up with new/old guns that everyone wants, but dang S&W ain’t on board getting the things built correctly!
I bought the new 632UC and 642UC thinking I was getting something special and updated. Yes, I had a few minor QC problems with both, S&W made it right, but I think that ruined me about buying new.
Maybe Lipseys should just start making guns? How hard could it be to send out guns that work?
But, I do appreciate y'all fellows doing all this quality assurance for S&W and not getting paid! (Sarcasm)
Maybe after they work out all the QC issues that yall are helping them with I might consider getting a 686. Probably next year or maybe just fork out the cash for one of the old ones?
Seems that Lipseys is doing a great job coming up with new/old guns that everyone wants, but dang S&W ain’t on board getting the things built correctly!
I bought the new 632UC and 642UC thinking I was getting something special and updated. Yes, I had a few minor QC problems with both, S&W made it right, but I think that ruined me about buying new.
Maybe Lipseys should just start making guns? How hard could it be to send out guns that work?
When someone makes a mountain out of a mole hill.
hkcavalier
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Holding onto my wallet until the 657 and 625 (.45 Colt) MGs drop...if S&W waits too long I'll get a Colt Anaconda .45. I doubt Colt will get around to a .41.
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I’m also eagerly anticipating a 625 .45 Colt. Also holding my breath for a 627 8 shot MG…that would be awesome!
