Cartwright Jones
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I find it fascinating that so many will decry the .30 carbine as ineffective despite it's near-1,000 lb-ft of energy at just under 2,000 fps, then sing the praises of the Thompson M1 that delivered maybe 400 lb-ft of impact slap, or the German MP40 that sent a 9mm out at maybe 1,400 fps. The M1 Carbine was second ONLY to the M1 Garand in terms of bullet velocity and energy, yet get's no respect, with zillions of outright lies cobbled up over the years to bash it.The debate over the effectiveness of pistol caliber carbines has gone on for years. Many well known firearms experts think they are a great idea. Others state that if you’re going to use a long gun, use one in rifle caliber and stop messing around.
I understand both sides of the argument. I don’t think either answer is right for everyone.
I own a Ruger PCC in 9MM. It has the Glock magazine adapter installed. I have a large quantity of Glock magazines so for me it makes sense. I even have a 100 round drum for it.
It’s reliable, accurate, and a lot of fun to shoot. And 9MM is less expensive to shoot. And at close range, I wouldn’t want to get shot with it.
I also own a Rock River Arms AR. The two stage match trigger is great. But I don’t shoot it near as much. Essentially if I’m shooting indoors.
What’s your take?
The .30 Carbine was a pistol caliber, but it was a POTENT pistol caliber. The 9mm was simply a pistol caliber chambered in a longer barrel - same for the .45 ACP. Neither of the later offered much beyond their pistol purposes, while the .30 Carbine sent a 110 grain slug Zinging out at nearly 2,000 fps for nearly 1,000 fpe! The next time your buddy tells you the lie about the .30 Carbine failing to penetrate Korean, quilted vests, you need to demand PROOF of such tripe, because PROOF already exists in the form of videographic footage of the Carbine round punching through TWO, water-soaked, fully-frozen jackets.
Beyond that, the 5.56 fired from an 11.5" barrel is LIGHT-YEARS BETTER than any 9mm. But you do you and live with what happens next.