Bullseye Smith
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has anyone used the 9mm HBRN bullets? They look like they would make a good target round for ICORE or any of them. Was thinking about getting some. What do you say?????
9mm HBRN
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handgunner356
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I use Berrys 124gr HBFP 9mms' mostly USPSA minor loads. I like them, allows for more bearing surface for bullet weight then standard types. I thought they might have a sealing effect like a HBWC, but they clocked out the same as the flat base loads, so no change in charge weights.
Berry's MFG
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We've had great results with this bullet, it came about as a request by one of our larger OEM customers for a law enforcement contract. They performed so well we decided to put them in our lineup. The specs called for a thicker plating, that's why they are called a TP.
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Notoast
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The last WWB 115 gr RN-FMJ bullet I pulled was a hollow base. So I imagine a lot of people have been shooting them!
Berry's MFG
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Don't confuse the Winchester FMJ bullet with a true hollow base. I have some Winchester .223 55gr bullets that are not filled out at the base with the lead core, that is poor manufacturing and not intentional. We had a bunch of customers want to send them back and get the Hornady 55gr bullets which are a very nice bulk bullet.
Easy there. I really like the Berry's plated hollow base but Winchester does make a 115gr FMJ with a hollow base and they are great bullets.
Berry's MFG
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I'd love to see a picture of the hollow base from Winchester, the last 115gr I saw had a domed bottom.
It's not a hollow base like you would find on a .38 148gr lead HBWC, it is more domed, but it is intentional, not poor manufacturing.
I'll take a picture and post one later.
I'll take a picture and post one later.
Alk8944
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Don't have a picture, all of them I have are loaded. The bullet is listed as being hollow-based, and it is roughly hemispherical. This allows the bullet to have the same length as the flat-based 124 grain FMJ. Winchester manufactures both flat-base and hollow-base 115 gr. 9mm FMJRN bullets.
Berry's MFG
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I've seen the domed base bullets, they use a ball end top punch instead of a flat punch. Like the 148 HBWC we use a pin punch that makes a hollow cavity in the base of a 124gr bullet giving it a length of the 147gr
EricInAZ
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Ever since discovering Berry's 124 gr HBFP, it's all I use. They perform well in all my 9mm loads, ranging from target, to hotter.
Just recently tried the 158 gr FP's & have developed a .38 spl load that rivals my best wadcutter load.
Just recently tried the 158 gr FP's & have developed a .38 spl load that rivals my best wadcutter load.
Berry's MFG
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Eric - We appreciate your support, keep an eye out for our new HP's
Winchesters jacketed 115 gn hbrn is what is/was used in their q4172 9mm rounds. These rounds were (have not bought fac rounds in several years)consistently accurate in every 9mm pistol they were tried in. Seems to be a combination of the hollow (domed if that's your preference) ,long col and long for weight bearing surface. Handloads using them have also been very accurate.
Am of belief there is a distinct advantage to using a hb bullet with soft lead core, as it may slug up to fit a variety of rifling. Even with some jacketed bullets.
Haven't tried Berry's version, but hollow based bullets go way back in design, and have worked for quite awhile.
Am of belief there is a distinct advantage to using a hb bullet with soft lead core, as it may slug up to fit a variety of rifling. Even with some jacketed bullets.
Haven't tried Berry's version, but hollow based bullets go way back in design, and have worked for quite awhile.
Berry's MFG
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All the way back to a miniball and moved to the fore in a 148gr .38 version made popular by the bullseye shooters. Those were made to obtrude, but the jacketed and plated are not designed for obtrusion.
EricInAZ
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Hey, about the HP's: do your plated lead hollowpoints really expand, or does the nose just moosh up a bit when it hits something substantial?
If anyone has some pics, I'd be interested in seeing them.
I load .357 rifle using Berrys 158 gr FP's as well as some other SWC's & would like to see what they do to a wet phone book at least, before I commit to buying a full box of them ...
Berry's MFG
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Right now we are in the testing phaze for the bullet performance. The whole goal is to build a HP that will expand without coming apart. I've been reminded of the awesome power of the .45 over the last two weeks in testing, seeing the results in the ballistics gel. As we move onto other calibers it will be fun to compare with the .45.
