Anybody use the Missouri bullets with Hi-Tek 2-Extreme Coating. What bullet design should anyone be looking for to use in a 357 and 44 magnum to hunt with? My understanding is these coated bullets do not have to be lubed, correct me if I am wrong. Would the reloading data for jacketed bullets in my nosler manual be alright to use as long as the bullet weight was the same as the Missouri Hi-Tek 2- Extreme coated bullets? I hope I have not made this to confusing.
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Coated lead bullets use lead load info, not jacketed info...
jwalts27
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Not true. Low/mid jacketed data can be used. I myself push the coated bullets hard in my .357 and 40SW with no issues. Oh and no lube.
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retired_diver
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I also use mid jacketed data for plated and the Hi-tek Missouri bullets. I have not had a leading problem or any other problem to date.
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I agree, you can treat them like plated bullets using lead load data or to middle jacketed load data. They are hard and I have not broken through the coating yet. I pushed a 124gr 9mm bullet to an AV of 1202 fps with no leading at all. (shot 50 of them in a Glock G19 with stock barrel) I used the max data for a JHP bullet trying to push them to fail and they did not. (loaded with Longshot)
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Alk8944
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Again, not true. This is simply parroting what has been seen on the 'net.
Anyone familiar with reloading will know that published date for cast bullets will often exceed data for jacketed bullets of the same weight. So, YES, you can use jacketed data to load cast bullets, whether coated or not.
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I've driven the Bayou Hi-Tek coated 240gr slugs (same size / Brn as MO bullets) with a near max charge of 296 with very good results in a Winchester 1892, S&W 29, and S&W 629. Out of the 20" BBL, like my 1892, it moves about 1750fps according to Lyman #49.
fredj338
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Actually is true. At some points, lead & jacketed data cross over, but as a rule of thumb, you don't use jacketed data for lead or plated or coated. Meaning bullets are not plug & play, especially near the top end.
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muddocktor
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I can give you some data for Bayou's 158 grain SWC Hi-Tek coated bullets. That should go along with the Missouri bullets pretty fair. I have tested the Bayou bullets with 16.3 grains of H110 and they ran well, with no abnormal pressure signs and no leading in either of 3 different pistols and my 20" barrel Rossi 92SRC rifle. Out of my 6 1/2" barrel model 27, that load chrono's at 1234 fps and out of the Rossi it showed 1762 fps. And was accurate to boot.
Thanks to all. Good info here. Now all I have to do is figure out which style bullet to buy. Anyone kill any game with these coated bullets? Just looking for something to practice with. I think I will stay with the 240gr. jacketed XTP's to hunt with, I am currently getting 1330 fps. with H110 out of a 6 1/2'' barrel 629 classic.
I would question the expansion capability of powder coated bullets. I have not seen any published data, but from what I read, and what I have shot with powder coated it is more like shooting full metal jacket. Has anyone seen anything about expansion?
Quote:''I would question the expansion capability of powder coated bullets. I have not seen any published data, but from what I read, and what I have shot with powder coated it is more like shooting full metal jacket. Has anyone seen anything about expansion?''
That is why I decided to stay with XTP's. They have performed very well on whitetail deer for me. No one has come forth and said they have taken any game with Hi-Tek coated bullets so I just decided to use them for a cheaper practice bullet.
That is why I decided to stay with XTP's. They have performed very well on whitetail deer for me. No one has come forth and said they have taken any game with Hi-Tek coated bullets so I just decided to use them for a cheaper practice bullet.
You use any bullet that you choose for your .357 and 44 Magnums. No lube is needed with coated bullets (or Powder Coated bullets). Don't get involved in the "yes you can, no you can't" argument when dealing with coated bullet load data. Send an email to the manufacturer to get facts, and do not rely on internet forum "experts".
FWIW (exactly what you're paying for it), I have been powder coating my own bullets for just over a year now, and shooting Precision coated pullets for mebbe 10 years. I have used light jacketed data for my .303 British and 7.62x54r PCed bullets, and lead bullet for my .44 Magnums, 45 ACP, and 9mm. Also lead data for my Precision coated bullets.
For a new reloader I would suggest using lead data as a starting point. I know of several fellers that have taken deer with a .44 caliber, 250 gr. SWC at 900 fps. How much difference will your target (or game) feel with a difference of 200 fps? Start with lead data and work up a load that is "perfect" for you...
FWIW (exactly what you're paying for it), I have been powder coating my own bullets for just over a year now, and shooting Precision coated pullets for mebbe 10 years. I have used light jacketed data for my .303 British and 7.62x54r PCed bullets, and lead bullet for my .44 Magnums, 45 ACP, and 9mm. Also lead data for my Precision coated bullets.
For a new reloader I would suggest using lead data as a starting point. I know of several fellers that have taken deer with a .44 caliber, 250 gr. SWC at 900 fps. How much difference will your target (or game) feel with a difference of 200 fps? Start with lead data and work up a load that is "perfect" for you...
fredj338
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The point of using lead bullet data for plated or coated, is to give you a full, safe range of data. Obviously, jacketed data woud be fine if you stick to loads below midrange. Lead bullet data will be a closer fit thru the entire range.
I think you can get a soft lead HP, powder coated or hi-tek, to expand very well with the right HP design. If someone wants to test some, pm me, I'll send you what ever caliber you like, unsized, as long as it is 9, 357, 44 or 45.
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