S&W clones

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I know from reading this forum that more than a few of you have Spanish made clones of S&W revolvers. Just curious if any of you are willing to admit firing your clones or willing to post your opinion of the revolver.
 
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I know from reading this forum that more than a few of you have Spanish made clones of S&W revolvers. Just curious if any of you are willing to admit firing your clones or willing to post your opinion of the revolver.
 
IT SEEMS NOBODY WANTS TO ADMIT THEY OWNED A SPANISH S&W CLONE. TARUS' WERE ALMOST CLONES, MY UMBERTI #3 RUSSIANS ARE CLONES! AND YES I ONCE OWNED A SPAMISH (LIKE SPAM) CLONE. IT WAS LIKE A K-FRAME, IT SHOT O.K. AND THE FINISH WAS LONG GONE, SO I SAND BLASTED AND PARKERIZED IT, AND IT STILL SHOT O.K. THEN IT WAS SOLD TO PASTOR GREG, WHO I THINK STILL HAS IT AND AT LAST ASKING SAID IT STILL SHOT O.K. THAT IS THE GUN YOU AND I TRADED BACK AND FORTH IN THE EARLY 80'S
 
Spanish clones come in all sizes and grades of perfection ( or lack of it). They can be very collectable, as an inexpensive endeavor, and are fun, as almost every range of quality can be found with a little diligence. Doug Wesson visited some of the Eibar gun factories in Spain in the 1920s, and said that he was shown a triple lock clone that was every bit as good, if not better, quality than a S&W T-Lock! Quality examples are usually found with the Eibar makers logo on the gun, or grips, and with Spanish proofs, and are direct copies of the design of S&Ws, except for the interior actions and small parts which can differ slightly. The lesser quality examples are usually easier to spot as the contours of the frame do not follow S&Ws, so the eye detects that flaw quickly. Barrel rib stampings that say " For S&W cartridges" , or similar, are also dead giveaways that the gun is a copy. Ed.
 
This one seems to be a good copy of a M&P and the barrel marking is La Industria Orbea. An couple days of searching on the net informed me that this company started making firearms in 1846 and continued up to the Spanish Civil War, when they switched to making bicycles. They began making S&W clones in time for the American Civil War. Made a S&W No. 3 clone that was officially adopted by the Spanish military, made Webley type revolvers that were officially purchased by Britain in WW1 and a S&W K frame that was officially purchased by France in the same period.

So yeah, I know it's not a Smith, but it was inexpensive and interesting. I am going to have to look at some of the proof marks closer but I actually suspect the revolver is one of the French contract pieces in 8mm Lebel rather than 32 WCF.

If that is the case I can understand how some of the Spanish revolvers got such a bad reputation. 8mm Lebel Revolver is a BP ctg in the 32 S&W Long class, but in a revolver with loose chambers you can chamber and fire 32 WCF. You can imagine the problems that could cause.
 

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