Need help identifying these N frame grips

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These are very nicely made after market grips I'm trying to identify who produced them, they're not the average ones from Taiwan I don't think.
Thank you,
Tom

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Engine 49,
These seem to be thin in the back and feel much like the early coke's grip or Factory rubber Hogue finger grips, there's no broadness in the back except at the very bottom and that's below my hand palm by quite a bit The set on the left however are much like what you described.
Tom

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If you Google Smith Altamont you will see they bare alot of similarities, the added wood below the frame heel, the center pin, the N carved inside, the shape of the sculpting at the top and the style of laminate wood.
Altamont makes several varients and while they look nice I find they tend to bee too thin width wise and the backstrap square Ness hurts my palm with magnum rounds alot more than with thicker rounder styles.
The stocks on the left look more factory shaped but SW didn't use a brass screw, all were Stainless iirc so likely aftermarket.
 
I have too many N frames according to my wife and have held a lot of grips and all the grips I have are factory. The ones on the left are way fat and uncomfortable to shoot. I was just astounded that I found a pair that I didn’t think was all that bad that are aftermarket.
They came on a 29-3 that I bought and I replaced with factory grips
 
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