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Old 07-31-2016, 02:25 PM
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Just wondering who use's frog lube and how you feel about it
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While I do not use it, I constantly read love-hate relationships with this stuff. Some swear by it while others swear at it - so something that controversial is something I have not had the desire to try.
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I decided to give it a try, but I think I regret it now. I don't hate it, but it is more work than petroleum based lubrication while the extra benefits do not feel equal to the extra work. It also costs a lot more than ed's red.

However, if I had kids or a wife who would not have other solvants in the house due to smell, I would stick with it. It is the best smelling and easiest on my hands gun lube I've used.
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After seeing some of the negative things posted about it, I won't go near the stuff.
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I've used it, the paste only, on 6 different firearms over the course of about 6 months and love it. If a person doesn't apply it correctly, or leaves too much (you're supposed to wipe everything down with a cloth) frog lube on the weapon I can see why they wouldn't care for it. I haven't had any issues at all since I started using it. The cleaning of the weapons is easier, the function of the weapons are great, and I don't have the stinky eye and throat burning smells (like ballistol) to deal with.

Each person has their own preference, but I like frog lube.
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Old 08-01-2016, 06:18 AM
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If a person doesn't apply it correctly, or leaves too much (you're supposed to wipe everything down with a cloth) frog lube on the weapon I can see why they wouldn't care for it.
One of the reasons there is so much hate of the product out there is that the company has often blamed the users for problems with their product--specifically they don't wipe the stuff down. And here we are again.

Well, I followed directions and I don't like the product. I never said it failed, only that it was harder to use than other products, while not doing a significantly better job. I also said that if I valued the non-toxicity of the product more, then it would be worth it.
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Old 08-01-2016, 06:27 AM
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Been using it for two or three years without any issues, really like it on the slide rails.
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Old 08-01-2016, 07:19 AM
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Here's three whole pages on the stuff:

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I love frog legs!

I'm indifferent to it. IMO they are all the same for our intended purposes. I'm sure there is a difference if you're in the deserts or if you're in the jungles is S. America or Southeast Asia and your firearm is with you at all times. But going from the range to the safe.....eh...all the same. My area has all 4 season with snow and cold in the winter and heat and humidity in the summer. In fact the last week has been unbelievably hot and humid. I use CLP or Hopes because that's just what I have and I've been using CLP since 98. I use it to clean regular commercial ammo and corrosive surplus ammo and never had an issue

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Old 08-01-2016, 09:17 AM
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I use " Safari Charlie " , great product ! I buy it at gun shows .
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Frog lube…
You can love or hate it, you can follow the instructions and it does what it claims to do, or, you can apply it the way you want to and you will get varying results.
Too much work to use it, harder to apply, now thats a joke, right?
I use it and other products, each has its pluses or minuses, and a proper way to use and apply it.
Use the product that you like, thats smells the way you need it to, takes the amount of "work" it needs to be applied properly and you will be happy,and know it is the only way to go.
If one product was all that much better then the dozens of similar ones out there ,they would put the rest out of business.
As I said I use several products, some work better under certain circumstances then others. What works for me,,, matching the need to the products best points.
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One of the things that turns me off about Frog Lube is that I hear to use it (along with other new comers as well) the metal of the firearm must be "seasoned" or prepared. I do not care for products that need to be applied to metal only after they are specially treated, I just like to clean, lube and rust prevent and store away. A product that needs such special prep has never been in my ball park UNLESS it is either the only game in town for such a task or is so exemplary that it is worth the hassle. The few different products I've been using for 50+ years now has always worked just fine without letting me down so I truly have no need for extra work and experimental type treatments.
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Old 08-01-2016, 11:01 AM
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One of the reasons there is so much hate of the product out there is that the company has often blamed the users for problems with their product--specifically they don't wipe the stuff down. And here we are again.

Well, I followed directions and I don't like the product. I never said it failed, only that it was harder to use than other products, while not doing a significantly better job. I also said that if I valued the non-toxicity of the product more, then it would be worth it.
Wow....well, let me start by saying that my post was not directed specifically at you or accusing you of not using it correctly. I have no skin in the game either way as to whether people love, like, or hate froglube or why they feel that particular way about it. I will sleep the same either way.

You tried it, you used it correctly, you decided that you'd rather use a different product..... no problem, that's your choice. I tried it, I used it correctly, I decided that I'd keep using it.....

A lot of the negative comments I read on many different forums about frog lube and why someone doesn't like it typically has something to do with "I used frog lube and now when I shoot my gun at the range I have green goo dripping out of all the cracks and crevasses....I can hardly hold on to the pistol anymore because it's all slimy with lube". Again, those particular people aren't using it correctly, are having a bad experience with it because of that, and won't use it anymore. I don't blame them, I wouldn't want a slimy goo dripping pistol in my hand either if I had a choice. That's not the company's fault, it's the users fault because he isn't using the product properly.

You did use it correctly, you didn't have goo dripping out, you just felt that it wasn't worth the extra work to use....again, no problem, that's your choice.

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Tried the liquid. Wasn't impressed, especially when price is factored in. I'll stick with ballistol and hornady dry lube.
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Old 08-01-2016, 11:12 AM
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Do a google search and you will find people on a lot of forums have used it. There is a lot of negative on it, especially with regard to semi auto weapons .
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Too much work to use it, harder to apply, now thats a joke, right?
Frog lube is the only lube I've ever used that required a heat gun. So, yes, it's harder to apply, no joke.

Does frog lube pay people to go around to gun forums and defend their product? For the price they charge, it would probably be worth it.

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Frog lube is the only lube I've ever used that required a heat gun. So, yes, it's harder to apply, no joke.

Does frog lube pay people to go around to gun forums and defend their product? For the price they charge, it would probably be worth it.
You don't like it......got it

Why does it seem to bother you that other people do?

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I use it on all my rim fire guns. Have never had a failure with it no matter what ammo I shoot and so much easier to keep clean. When I first used it I was using way too much and didn't work well at all. I decided to actually follow the directions and it works for me.
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One of the things that turns me off about Frog Lube is that I hear to use it (along with other new comers as well) the metal of the firearm must be "seasoned" or prepared. I do not care for products that need to be applied to metal only after they are specially treated, I just like to clean, lube and rust prevent and store away. A product that needs such special prep has never been in my ball park UNLESS it is either the only game in town for such a task or is so exemplary that it is worth the hassle. The few different products I've been using for 50+ years now has always worked just fine without letting me down so I truly have no need for extra work and experimental type treatments.
Same here, I bought some of it some years back and just used it like a paste lube. Sometime later I read that you were supposed to read the directions, and pre-heat the metal. Too much trouble to me for a gun I clean after every range trip. Wish I had just bought the sample pack. Nothing against it really, it's just not for me.
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My wife and I have used it for 2-3 years now on our carry guns seams to lube and protect ok . The big advantage is pleasant smell and no staining of clothing(remember the wife uses it and this is important to her makes carrying that more pleasant ) we also live were it rairly gets below freezing
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So many cleaning and lubing products it can drive one mad! Sticking with Breakfree CLP or Hoppe's and that's it.
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" Safari Charlie " works for me . if you want cheaper and in bulk , then go the home brew route with " Eds Red " . I have heard good things about it . Over 100 yrs ago , the std cleaner was kerosene followed by a light oil.
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Extreme weapon lube is a good oil. That vegetable oil froggy stuff can gunk up. Also not compatible with some other lubes if mixed.

I also used tetra grease on my m9. It's been there for years on my carry m9 and still as slick as when it went on.
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I'm indifferent to it. IMO they are all the same for our intended purposes. I'm sure there is a difference if you're in the deserts or if you're in the jungles is S. America or Southeast Asia and your firearm is with you at all times. But going from the range to the safe.....eh...all the same.
Excellent point.

Unless you are a Navy SEAL or something operating in extreme conditions, pretty much anything will work well enough. Since that is the case, it makes good sense to pick something non-toxic. I use any of the various non-toxic cleaners and for lube, I just use plain white mineral oil. It's cheap and has no health concerns regarding skin contact. Hoppes lubricating oil is nothing more than a low grade mineral oil and it's been working just fine for ordinary folks for decades.
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I was highly disappointed by FrogLube. Yes, I followed the instructions. I ended up having to spray a couple guns with brake cleaner and start over with regular petroleum-based lubricants.

Specifically, the stuff gets tacky in cold temperatures. Like, say, duck hunting in November in Washington State and the firing pin starts sticking in the bolt of a shotgun.
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The "paste" version of the product is great as a rust/oxidation preventer in inclement weather. Not as impressed with the cleaning and lubrication aspects of the frog products, and don't use them for that purpose. As the other posters have indicated, experienced problems associated with thickening viscosity at low temperatures.

Have been using Tetra spray, or Liquid Wrench Dry Lube or Liquid Wrench Silicone spray for cleaning/ lubrication in the winter months, and Tetra Lube and or Tetra grease, (autos) in the summer. The Liquid Wrench Dry Lube cuts through and cleans shooting debris well, and the carrier is very volatile. It evaporates quickly and leaves no residue. Use caution around plastics and wood finishes, follow label instructions.

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The "paste" version of the product is great as a rust/oxidation preventer in inclement weather. Not as impressed with the cleaning and lubrication aspects of the frog products, and don't use them for that purpose. As the other posters have indicated, experienced problems associated with thickening viscosity at low temperatures.

Have been using Tetra spray, or Liquid Wrench Dry Lube or Liquid Wrench Silicone spray for cleaning/ lubrication in the winter months, and Tetra Lube and or Tetra grease, (autos) in the summer. The Liquid Wrench Dry Lube cuts through and cleans shooting debris well, and the carrier is very volatile. It evaporates quickly and leaves no residue. Use caution around plastics and wood finishes, follow label instructions.

From an armorer's perspective, less is better.
+1 for tetra stuff. It stays put and lasts a long time.
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True story...
Sometime ago, a guy at a g-show was demoing it and gave me a sample. He was eating the stuff (in small amounts) I guess to show it's safe/non-toxic, etc.
Anyway, I tried it on a gun and it seemed to be ok but I'm pretty light service on them. I haven't tried it on toast yet.
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I can't say I ever used Frog Lube but I use M Pro 7 gun cleaner spray and gun cleaner gel and gun oil all the time. Give it a try if you're looking for something non toxic. I can't smell it and no complaints from the wife and she has a nose like a picky bloodhound.

But just another thought about cleaning guns. Your cleaning products can be non toxic but the stuff you clean off your guns is still pretty toxic. That said I still think it is worth it to use non toxic products.
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Regular oil(like mobile 1 or whatever) is not that toxic.

Now I had a can of gun cleaner that was CCl4 (carbon tetrachloride). Tht stuf is a great degreaser and so is benzene....those are toxic.
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IMHO-after trying it ? It's an over-rated, under-performing pain in the butt. What's the old adage; "an unnecessary attempt to solve a non-existent problem"
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IMHO-after trying it ? It's an over-rated, under-performing pain in the butt. What's the old adage; "an unnecessary attempt to solve a non-existent problem"
Underwhelming product with terrific marketing. Every class of products has at least one of these companies/products. Fiat, Kimber, Dos Equis, GEICO, et al
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I know I'll probably get bashed for saying this, but years ago while at Knob Creek machine gun shoot, I met Arthur Ceiner, the mastermind behind the many 22 conversion kits. I asked him what lube he recommended and he pulled me close to him, and whispered in my ear..."any good quality synthetic motor oil", he said if its good enough for a formula 1 car at 15K rpms, it'll be fine for a machinegun or most any other gun. That was nearly 10 years ago and I have been using Mobil 1 synthetic every since and have never looked back. I am still using the same quart container I bought nearly 10 years ago as well, I just keep keep refilling a smaller container. I realize that they market all kinds of nifty new cool stuff, but its hard to argue the fact that a car engine sees more heat, more metal on metal contact, and more use than most any gun will......So why wouldn't a good quality motor oil work??
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I know I'll probably get bashed for saying this, but years ago while at Knob Creek machine gun shoot, I met Arthur Ceiner, the mastermind behind the many 22 conversion kits. I asked him what lube he recommended and he pulled me close to him, and whispered in my ear..."any good quality synthetic motor oil", he said if its good enough for a formula 1 car at 15K rpms, it'll be fine for a machinegun or most any other gun. That was nearly 10 years ago and I have been using Mobil 1 synthetic every since and have never looked back. I am still using the same quart container I bought nearly 10 years ago as well, I just keep keep refilling a smaller container. I realize that they market all kinds of nifty new cool stuff, but its hard to argue the fact that a car engine sees more heat, more metal on metal contact, and more use than most any gun will......So why wouldn't a good quality motor oil work??
I've been hearing this more and more. Using the oil, not the bashing lol

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