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  1. Göring's S&W

    LERK

    That's right...those are MERKS. ;)
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    Lettered Pre-21 with Target sights

    That is an interesting revolver. Notice in your pic #3 that has the SN in the barrel shroud is a different style of marking (electro-pencil?) than is normally seen. Based upon that, and the barrel rib itself, this gun was re-barreled for the conversion, using either a 44 spl model 1950 target...
  3. Göring's S&W

    1902 HE? **Update in Post 12**

    Nice '4 screw' esp. for the money! Also of note, this model was the first one to have the forward locking lug beneath the barrel which became a S&W standard feature for future revolvers. That is correct, only 12,827 made which actually makes it substantially more rare than the 1902 1st change...
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    HE45 Transitional model

    Off the top of my head, I think that one is actually a 45 HE transitional subvariation since with that serial, that one would be a model 1917 "over run" that was later sold as a commercial model. "New production" N frame transitionals are in the S62XXX (ish) to S72XXX serial range, as I recall...
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    First year 44 magnum S130937 - LETTER HAS ARRIVED!!!

    Talk about a "loaded question"....hmmmm
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    Regulation Police Target .38 S&W

    I can relate to calling repeatedly and Cabelas not answering. I missed guns for that reason and it is probably worse now that Bass Pro bought them, as is usually the case when a company is bought out and cost cutting measures are usually then implemented. I have not seen one of those in the...
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    Regulation Police Target .38 S&W

    Wow, very nice, in my proverbial back yard no less! I am however much closer to the Tridelphia Cabela's but I have searched their national listings many times, although I never got anything like that! I don't recall seeing a RP 38 S&W target before this one personally. Needless to say, this one...
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    First year 44 magnum S130937 - LETTER HAS ARRIVED!!!

    Hello drcorc, I just fixed my inbox and read your additional posts to my old thread. Well first thing is first, congratulations on getting an excellent and early S&W 44 magnum. When you say "didn't know what he had" I have to assume you mean the dealer you got it from and not myself because it...
  9. Göring's S&W

    What do I have??

    A pinnacle model from a pinnacle production period…you should be very proud to own it. If any of us were going to have just *1* S&W revolver, this would just about do it IMO.
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    Need Help with Model Identification!

    As for the grips, here is the info simply put: yes it is true that the first Chief's special was a J frame, but it is also true that the first J frames, which are 5 screw, used the standard I frame round butt grip frame profile. The important consideration here is what makes an I frame an I...
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    First Model Hand Ejector .32 S&W Long - Antique?

    So you want to adapt a top break to having a side cylinder release but then you intend to do it to a Hopkins & Allen? (what you have pictured) or do you want to adapt the later side release to the earlier ejector rod style cylinder release of the 1896 to a S&W hand ejector? I'm a little...
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    Just a nice early M&P 1905, 4th change in .38 Special

    Well if those are repros, those guys in China have really accomplished something with their attention to detail. ;) I mean, they're exactly right...and appear to be well crafted too. Although I would have to find the photos, I did own a 4in 500XXX or so serial "model 1902" aka round butt M&P...
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    Why recessed cylinder?

    Although uncommon, this is a known variation since the 2 separate features were not discontinued at exactly the same time as I understand it, across many models. The barrel pinning was observed to be dropped first, which could be because S&W had to use up the recessed cylinders, or it could be...
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    S&W 38 Special Age and Value

    Hello Gary - with all due respect, where is it that you are shopping for used firearms at? I have only found pre war S&W revolvers in the price range you mention when the shop didn't actually know what they had. If you tell me the secret shop(s), I promise I won't be a greedy jerk and buy...
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    How about a 44 magnum with 5 screws?

    Hello Tom - good to see you're (I assume) doing ok. I was just thinking about that revolver the other day actually. Unsurprisingly, I have not attained anything like that since. Luckily for me, the fact that it went to a good guy and a good home helps me not to have as much seller's remorse...
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    How about a 44 magnum with 5 screws?

    I'm not dead yet In the truest sense, it is not important for the thread itself whether the OP is still around (but I am here) because it is really about the info, the learning, the sharing, and the community itself, not about whether the OP will see the update. Even sometimes just a...
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    S&W Factory Repair/Refinish Stampings

    Also, as an aside, I don’t believe there are fake rework dates. If I am wrong, i would like to see evidence. I don’t see any reason to fake a rework stamp, then or now. We must remember that many fine details of this rework marking process will be lost to time and most of the people who...
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    New model #3 32-44

    Let's not forget about NM3 targets This is true only to a point. The NM3 target guns are around, despite their production of 4,333. What is scarce IMO are NM3s with target sights in calibers other than 32-44 and 38-44. A NM3 fixed sight example in 32-44 or 38-44 would qualify as rare. When...
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    Looked at a model 1 today..( edit: 1 1/2 )

    Not enough info on Winchester 1882 er um 1886. If 45-70, it could be a lightweight takedown variant (45-70 or 33 WCF) also we would have to know if it has any special order features, condition, antique vs modern, etc will fall have some effect on value. As for the 1 1/2 32 refinished, I would...
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    #1 .357 Magnum

    Not what I expected Did anyone else click this thread with the hopes that REG #1 was discovered aka the J. Edgar Hoover RM? ;)
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