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Old 10-27-2023, 08:39 AM
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Our general store has had a FPC for $582 dollars so it came home with me yesterday afternoon. Still need to get a optic for it but added a set of flip up sights I had in a AR parts box for the short term . I'll get it on our range today and run a some ammo thru it and see what my wife thinks about it .

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pardon my ignorance, but, what is an 'FCP'?
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As ignorant as you might be you should have known a couple letters where back words , but maybe not !!

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Thank you chad . I was looking around for some optic I may have over looked and found a older 2-6x32 pistol scope that only weigh's in at 16.4oz with rings and as it turns out it works rather well for now . I'll probably go with a 1-4x30mm if I find a deal on one during black friday sales .

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Old 10-27-2023, 02:59 PM
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Every time I take my FPC out I love it more and more. Just such an easy shooting PCC. My son spent 4 in the Army and will soon be joining the National Guard. He took it and and kicked the tires. He liked it too.

If you have a change to grab one, I would suggest you do so. Just a warning, it is not a $3500 high speed low drag operator rifle. If you are okay with that then you too will enjoy it.

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Waiting for the trigger kit. Apex y’all listenin’?
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[QUOTE=hardluk1;141851007]Our general store has had a FPC for $582 dollars so it came home with me yesterday afternoon. Still need to get a optic for it but added a set of flip up sights I had in a AR parts box for the short term . I'll get it on our range today and run a some ammo thru it and see what my wife thinks about it .[/QUOTE

I purchased one a week or so ago. Be careful about interducing your wife to the FPC. You may end up buying a second one as I did.
We put inexpensive Romeo MSR's on ours. Have only shot ours out to 75 yards. It will do its job. Enjoy yours!
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I did but it for my wife . Her AR15 & AR9 are starting to feel a bit heavy on our range after some time shooting steels .

The FPC is not really that lite as this one does weigh in at 6lb 2.3oz with a loaded 17 round mag but less those loaded 23 round mags that my wife's more comfortable with them in her mag holder on the waist she but the weigh in is with the 2-6 scope. So it is lighter than ether of her AR's but the big difference for her is far less barrel/muzzle weight even with the scope on it !

I think after talking with my wife last night she still prefers the green dot green dot optic she's been using on our fun handguns so I be looking for an enclosed green dot optic that should loss about 14 to 15 oz weight too .
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I went back over to our general store to see what rifle red dots they had . Lots of choices but I bought a sig Romeo7 30mm red dot after looking over the functions lens for clarity edge to edge and the base being a QD design . Seemed to be a good to me . They had it priced at $175 . Could have gone cheaper but with the large 30mm lens I figure my wife would still like it and she does . It gets the unloaded weight well in to the mid 5lb range . I bore sighted the optic for what I thought would be a close zero and was spot on at 25 yards .

A neighbor stopped by to asked me about some carbine choices for around the house as we have a few . He Is retired LE but they carried a 12ga pump , no rifles so we went over our carbines and the FPC that he liked . We went our back and he shot a 23 rounds and I ended up talking him over to our general store and he bought a FPC also But he wants a green dot so he has to order one . I loaned him some flip up sights for now .

MY wife fired 60 rounds and is pleased too so I get the AR9 as my fun gun now .
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Looking for a Muzzle compensator for my New S/W FPC 9mm.
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Old 11-24-2023, 09:56 AM
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You would get a number of replys starting your own tread but here my reply .

Compensators tend to discharge the exhaust out the top and or sides to reduce muzzle rise . Is that an issue for you ?

I find the muzzle rise to be very minimal with no interest in the high DB compensators give to the shooter and others behind the muzzle and only want to keep the blast going down range . If your going to use your FPC in PPC matches then the choice should be yours as a number of them are available . I have no opinion there . Then there are Liner Comps and others known more as Flash Cans that keep the muzzle blast heading down range .

I've been good with KAK products for years and added the short slime line model linked below .
Gives me some muzzle protection for the FPC .

OR You could get the process started to buy a 9mm suppressor 200 bucks plus cost of the unit . $$$$


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Our general store has had a FPC for $582 dollars so it came home with me yesterday afternoon. Still need to get a optic for it but added a set of flip up sights I had in a AR parts box for the short term . I'll get it on our range today and run a some ammo thru it and see what my wife thinks about it .[/QUOTE

I purchased one a week or so ago. Be careful about interducing your wife to the FPC. You may end up buying a second one as I did.
We put inexpensive Romeo MSR's on ours. Have only shot ours out to 75 yards. It will do its job. Enjoy yours!
Probably in the near future we won't communicate with anything but abbreviations that don't exceed 3 letters.
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I just bought one of these yesterday from Cold Creek Outfitters on gunbroker. Here's a pretty good review I found online:

Gun Review: Smith & Wesson M&P FPC Folding Pistol Carbine - The Truth About Guns

I also bought the Bushnell RedDot and UTG mount that are shown in the review, both from Amazon.

Watched a couple videos on youtube, one by Jerry Miculek and another by Hickok45. Knew I had to have one of these. Can't wait to get it and head for the range.
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Probably in the near future we won't communicate with anything but abbreviations that don't exceed 3 letters.
I hope not but so many of the younger generations do already when text messaging !
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Probably in the near future we won't communicate with anything but abbreviations that don't exceed 3 letters.
And TLAs (three letter acronyms). Nothing new there though. In the 80s I worked for a company that made missiles and among the many mil specs I encountered there was one for acronyms and initialisms that mentioned TLAs. That was in the 80s and even back then we joked about how many TLAs we used on a regular basis.
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I used to work with guys that would ACK and NAK each other in speech, so text seems pretty harmless. But AFAIK, you can RTFM til TEOTWAWKI and not get all of them.
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Shot mine today for the first time. Just zeroing with a Vortex Spark II I had sitting around.

No function problems . After a few adjustments , I was getting centered 1 to 2 inch groups at 50 yards. This off a crude bag on a cold windy day. I am sure it would do a little better under ideal condition.

Overall quite pleased with it.
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Okay, so I have had an itch that was in need of scratching. I know what the accuracy of the FPC on the close up stuff. With just a dot sight or the pop-up sights I am confident up to probably about 50 yards. I have now switched out those sights for an old Weaver 2-7 scope that was on an old 270 Win. I am going to sight it in and then take it out to 100yrds. Gonna see just how accurate it can be. Of course this is an older scope so it will not be a modern 6-24 kind of magnification but, it should still give me a good idea.
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I first tried a old 2-7 handgun scope and its worked fine mounted at the start of the FFT like a scout scope but not practical and my wife liked the romeo 7 dot optic . Just remember with a dot optic use an aim point in a contrasting color thats about one inch larger than what your dot cover at a given distance . 2moa Red dot covers 1" at 50 yards so try a 2" black aim point . If you can see a black right around the red dot fire .

7 powers more than enough for 50 yards IF you can get close enough to a normal rifle scope with there typically short 3.5" eye relief .
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Okay, sooooo mixed results. 100 yards was not horrible but, not quite what I expected. I guess I should have expected it. I was using S&B Brass 115gr. 50 yards came out better. And of course it is still dynamite at 25 and 10.

I did have a problem, the scope was way too low. I think the rings were 1" and should have been 1.5-2". Also, I couldn't get the turret to get the cross hairs to align with the bullet hits.

It might be possible to try other ammo and get a better result but, not sure I care to go down that rabbit hole. I did buy a box or Hornady sub sonic 147gr XTP. Supposedly it is 975fps at the muzzle but, I would assume that it was a little more in my FPC. They didn't do very well at 50.

My take-away, it will do in a pinch at 100 but, really shines between 0-50.
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I hunted with a 2moa ultra dot on a 8" DW revolver for years and I could still manage to place 6 rounds inside a 4" group at 100 yards and that was my zero . Just go a pick the right optic for the need and a scopes not really a good idea on the 9mm carbine .

Mine with the 2moa red dot shoot 1.5" to 2.25" with several different 124gr and 147gr standard velocity ammo .
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Just go a pick the right optic for the need and a scopes not really a good idea on the 9mm carbine .
Not gonna use it for hunting. As I posted above, I just wanted to see how accurate it is at 100 yards. I have no plans on hunting with it, no plans on putting a scope on it. The dot and iron sights I have are more than good for what it was intended, plinking and self defense.
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I really like the Tandemkross compensator:

Game Changer PRO Compensator for 9mm | TANDEMKROSS

I do notice a difference using it on my FPC.
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I'm sure you do , like more blast around you and to the sides .
I've seen ,a, heard the tandemkross and a few other brands at a rifle range I use to visit model from near by on different 9mm carbines and ar15's . Just my feelings .
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I do notice a difference using it on my FPC.

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I'm sure you do , like more blast around you and to the sides .
I've seen ,a, heard the tandemkross and a few other brands at a rifle range I use to visit model from near by on different 9mm carbines and ar15's . Just my feelings .
Not an indoor range gun. I use it for steel challenge and it does help. In contrast the same compensator on my Ruger PC Carbine doesn't make an appreciable difference. The FPC is much lighter in the front than the Ruger.
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Not gonna use it for hunting. As I posted above, I just wanted to see how accurate it is at 100 yards. I have no plans on hunting with it, no plans on putting a scope on it. The dot and iron sights I have are more than good for what it was intended, plinking and self defense.
Hunting !! with a 9mm never entered my mind . I only used the 2-7 pistol scope just to see what it might do also . Not even adding flip up sights , only the romeo 7 as ours is a fun gun for my wife .
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Not an indoor range gun. I use it for steel challenge and it does help. In contrast the same compensator on my Ruger PC Carbine doesn't make an appreciable difference. The FPC is much lighter in the front than the Ruger.
Personally I prefer the extra barrel weight on a AR9 and not a fan of the PC carbine. I find the AR9 or at least the one I assembled swings smoother between targets . Good luck in the SC matches .
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Sorry but please excuse me, I also had no idea what a FPC is. Temped to get some sort of 9 mm carbine as my son has a Ruger. He loves it . Thought about one of those but my gunsmith let me shoot his 10 mm AR , done deal for me.
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Search S&W M&P FPC site and check out the many you tube videos. For my wife who is 68 and 5-2 our AR9 carbine was getting to heavy for fun time on our range . The FPC is a lite fun gun my wife can enjoy . For more serious needs we have other better suited AR15's .

If you already carry a M&P full size or compact 9mm and want a lite carbine that can use mags you already have and fold up if that matters the FPC may be the right choice . Other wise there a lot of real deals on other brands in other cartridges out there .

You might look at highpoint carbine for a lower cost and buy one in a choice cartridges from 380 , 9mm, 40 , 45 &10mm and there +P rated . Talk to your gunsmith buddy Maybe an AR carbine like a S&W M&P 15 sport II .
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Okay, so I have had an itch that was in need of scratching. I know what the accuracy of the FPC on the close up stuff. With just a dot sight or the pop-up sights I am confident up to probably about 50 yards. I have now switched out those sights for an old Weaver 2-7 scope that was on an old 270 Win. I am going to sight it in and then take it out to 100yrds. Gonna see just how accurate it can be. Of course this is an older scope so it will not be a modern 6-24 kind of magnification but, it should still give me a good idea.
Guy on Youtube has a video shooting ballistics gel standard 115gr ball with both the FPC and the SUB2000 at 400yrds with freaking iron sights like a beast and the results show 100% lethal penetration, Super impressive!
After seeing that I ripped my Holosun HS510C and replaced it with a Primary Arms SLx microprism 1x with the 9mm reticle gonna try see how it runs zeroed in at 200yds and add a flip to side magnifier and we will see hoping to maintain perfect CQB with viable distance option.
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Guy on Youtube has a video shooting ballistics gel standard 115gr ball with both the FPC and the SUB2000 at 400yrds with freaking iron sights like a beast and the results show 100% lethal penetration, Super impressive!
After seeing that I ripped my Holosun HS510C and replaced it with a Primary Arms SLx microprism 1x with the 9mm reticle gonna try see how it runs zeroed in at 200yds and add a flip to side magnifier and we will see hoping to maintain perfect CQB with viable distance option.
How did you get that prism optic close enough for that short 3.6" ideal eye relief even though PA say its ok out to 7", Not good but suppose to be ok . 400 yards of practical use ! good luck .
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I would suggest a Bushnell Trophy TRS 25, solidity built Red Dot at an excellent price & super warranty . Yu can pay more ,but the Trophy-TRS 25 will do the job better than more expensive models . I have one & its shoots great !
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I would suggest a Bushnell Trophy TRS 25, solidity built Red Dot at an excellent price & super warranty . Yu can pay more ,but the Trophy-TRS 25 will do the job better than more expensive models . I have one & its shoots great !
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+1 for the TRS-25, I run quite a few of these on various rifles including AKs and a VZ-58, all mounted on the handguards over the pistons, never had an issue and they see a lot of heat & recoil.

I've had a few different 9mm AR carbines and weight is definitely a factor. The FPC is a featherweight in 9mm PCCs, only a pound heavier than my Sub2k which is as light as it gets.
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