S&Wnewbie.001
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Probably a stupid question, but is the rear sight on this gun adjustable? What I find is a hex screw that appears to merely permit removal of it. If adjustable, how?
9mm M&P Rear Sight Adjustability
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MotorCityGun
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OK, I'll ask first, "...and why do you want to adjust your rear sight?"
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S&Wnewbie.001
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Grouping is consistently slightly down and to the left and, assuming it's not due to an incorrect grip, trigger pull, etc......
GaryM&P
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It is adjustable for windage. Loosen set screw, move, then tighten set screw. Some sights are very tight and require a sight pusher to move.
MotorCityGun
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I'll bet your next paycheck that you're a right-handed shooter, right?
This is exactly what/where I was shooting/grouping until I learned how to shoot with the DAO trigger. Have someone who is familiar with the trigger/pistol "teach"/show you how to shoot this pistol before you mess with the sights. I'm fairly certain it's not the gun sights which need adjustment.
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I'd spend more time shooting than adjusting. You should work some dry firing into your training schedule as well. If/when you go to a range, have the range master load a few dummy rounds randomly into your mags. He'll have fun doing it and that trick goes a long way to identify and correct flinching and other trigger control issues like recoil anticipation and over gripping.
magnum12pm
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Put the gun on bags or pistol rest before doing any adjustments to the sights of any firearm. Thats how the pros do it too!
FYI. Removal of the rear sight is from left to right. (pistol pointed down range) Remove it too far and the striker block cover will be exposed and the spring will launch it into the air, along with the spring. 
Search for Apex tactical and it will lead you to a youtube video about moving the rear sight.
And shooting low left is a classic trigger control problem. Happens to me all the time.
Search for Apex tactical and it will lead you to a youtube video about moving the rear sight.And shooting low left is a classic trigger control problem. Happens to me all the time.
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Gila Jorge
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Refuse to have a gun for USPSA usage that does not have adjustable sights for the different loads I regularly shoot.
Is this gun prone to right handed shooters down and to the left more so then other guns? Mine shoots low too it seems but when I tilt high its fine. My Sig 45 no problems, Wather 40 no problems, Colt python when I had it no problems, Springfield 45 no problems, in fact this is only gun I have this experience with past and present. I will look at the youyoube video suggested. This is interesting, thanks much, appreciate the information.
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this issue is truly beat to death often and willingly, so please bear with me.
here's what i've learned since i too have been there, done that...lots of things can be happening, but low-left on a right-handed shooter generally means you are slapping/jerking the trigger and/or flinching. i am guilty of this more often than not and when i concentrate on the problem, it goes away.
the rear sight might be slightly adjustable for "windage" only, but that won't help shooting low. if the gun really IS shooting low, you may have to test different ammo types/brands to see if it helps (e.g. different weight bullets, loads, etc.)
most importantly, have another experienced shooter shoot YOUR low-left pistol (preferably off a rest) to make sure absolutely it is the pistol causing the problem and not the shooter.
the worst possible thing you can do is adjust a pistol to compensate for poor fundamentals and end up never realizing the true problem... which is why it's even more important you have another shooter help you out.
best of luck!
I a ma southpaw...and I was shooting low and right. After dry fire practicing....I was still right...though no longer left. I sat down at the work bench at the range...and after looking closely at my rear sight....it was right of center. I am not sure if that is how they do it at the factory or not...so we loosened the set screw and pushed the rear sight over to being just slightly LEFT of center.
Now I shoot dead on.
I had this problem when I first started shooting my MP45. I asked the same sight question of the range boss. He pointed out that I was either letting my trigger finger go to far into the trigger or I was rolling my right wrist. I found that he was correct on both points. A little more practice and the problem is gone!
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Coach yourself thru each trigger press to "focus on front sight!" That usually helps a bunch. If your front sight is in full focus, the trigger likely just happens and a hole magically appears center mass of the target you're aiming for.
Find yourself a safe place, unload the pistol, check the chamber and mag well twice, and DRY FIRE, DRY FIRE, DRY FIRE, DRY FIRE....
Find yourself a safe place, unload the pistol, check the chamber and mag well twice, and DRY FIRE, DRY FIRE, DRY FIRE, DRY FIRE....
thanks very much. I really never tried much dryfire practice but it makes sense. Every gun is different and I probably have to adapt to this one. I notice they sell a trigger kit for it but no big deal its not my main pistol, the ammos cheap thats all. I will try your suggestions and thanks again, I appreciate any advice I can get.
chuck s
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Don't try to pull the trigger straight thru in a hurry after the sights align.
Assuming you're firing at a threat take the slack out of the trigger as soon as the pistol points toward the target. Note I've not mentioned the sights yet.
OK. As soon as the sights align where you want the bullet to go complete the trigger press. Release to reset and fire again. First acceptable sight picture.
-- Chuck
Assuming you're firing at a threat take the slack out of the trigger as soon as the pistol points toward the target. Note I've not mentioned the sights yet.
OK. As soon as the sights align where you want the bullet to go complete the trigger press. Release to reset and fire again. First acceptable sight picture.
-- Chuck
