M&P Core with Trijjicon RM07 sight

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I wanted to play in USPSAs carry optics division. I bought a new m&p core pistol and spent the big bucks for a Trijjicon RM07 sight to go on it. In the first month the sight has turned itself on and off 6 or so times during a stage. I finally called Trijjicon and explained the problem and they said yes we are aware of it. First the agent pointed out that this sight was not designed for use on a pistol and then went on to say that the problem was specific to the core and its mounting plate. I now have to send the sight in to have an extra battery contact installed and maybe have some machining done as well. Oh ya, it will take up to 4 weeks. At least they are going to fix it. I went with this sight because my hero Jerry Miculek used this sight on his 20 minute video that talked about how great the m&p core was. Jerry was right about one thing btw, the accuracy on this pistol is great which is most likely due to the 1/10 rifling in the barrel.

SPREAD THE WORD FOLKS
 
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I went with the no battery rm05g on ours and am pleased with it . Just fiber optic and tritium in it .

In the future , guys like jerry tend to use product most times do to who made the best contract and threw the most bucks at them . Jerry is or was also using a vortex for the last few years but it does not mean it the best . But pick a open class shooter and you will find most brands being used by some grand master or another .

Lots of guys use the RM07 and are pleased by them so might be luck of the draw for you . Hang in there .
 
hardluk1 said:
I went with the no battery rm05g on ours and am pleased with it . Just fiber optic and tritium in it .

In the future , guys like jerry tend to use product most times do to who made the best contract and threw the most bucks at them . Jerry is or was also using a vortex for the last few years but it does not mean it the best . But pick a open class shooter and you will find most brands being used by some grand master or another .

Lots of guys use the RM07 and are pleased by them so might be luck of the draw for you . Hang in there .
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I found it interesting that the agent is blaming S&W and their mount. Anyone have a contact at S&W that does not involve going through the robots at customer service. I would sure like to hear what S&W has to say.
 
Hey maybe the cs guy was having a baaaad day . I don't think S&W guys would have much to comment on .

Might be worth calling trijicon back and if you remember the guys name and he answers go over his head . Talk with another person .

I seem to remember one M&P guys I seem to remember one guy here had a rather high round count thru one like yours .
 
hardluk1 said:
Hey maybe the cs guy was having a baaaad day . I don't think S&W guys would have much to comment on .

Might be worth calling trijicon back and if you remember the guys name and he answers go over his head . Talk with another person .

I seem to remember one M&P guys I seem to remember one guy here had a rather high round count thru one like yours .
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I guess if both parties are blaming each other for the problem then no problem really exits and I should just grin and bear it. Hmmmm.....thinking about that one. Sorry....sarcasm runs in the family
 
Not competing but I shoot the RM06 on a M&P Pro CORE .40 S&W with a lot of range time. No issues with the mounting plate or turning on and off. I think you are right to expect better results and Trijicon to make it right.
 
Mine quit after a few hundred rounds. Trijicon customer support just said to send it in and they would fix it. They did not say anything about using it on a pistol, the CORE system, extra battery contacts, or machining it. It took about a month and I did not notice any new machining on the sight. One customer service rep said they were sensitive to mounting torque.

If what you're saying is true I need to confirm it so I can verify mine was fixed/upgraded properly.
 
A friend of mine works at a large volume gunshop/range and said he's heard several complaints about the RMR turning itself off and on.

I've heard nothing but good things about the Vortex Razor and am leaning in that direction. Anyone have any direct experience with it?
 
I sent my Rm07 in for repair yesterday. I talked to a different rep when I called to get some RMA info. He told the same story about this sight as the first rep I talked to. Yes...they have some problem with the sights turning off intermittently while shooting or the dot intensity decreasing to almost nothing. Again this rep made reference to the cutout for the mount made by the pistol manufacturer causing the problem. Last but not least, this rep made sure he told me that this RMR sight was not designed to take the stress of being mounted on a pistol slide. When I pointed out that their website shows this sight mounted on a pistol he did not have anything to say. Thanks Jerry M for sucking me into a sight not meant for pistols.
 
agksimon said:
A friend of mine works at a large volume gunshop/range and said he's heard several complaints about the RMR turning itself off and on.

I've heard nothing but good things about the Vortex Razor and am leaning in that direction. Anyone have any direct experience with it?
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I took a look at this sight. Positive is 6moa dot and lifetime warranty. The Trijjicon sight only has a 5 year from date of manufacture warranty on the red dot.
 
I sent in a RM06 and a RM07 for the same problem you described. Trijicon fixed both with zero cost to me and both have been flawless since I got them back.
 
Thanks for letting me know. It's nice that Trijjicon is fixing the problem but I doubt that I would have spent the big bucks for their RMR if I knew there was a good chance I would have to send it in for repair before I could count on it. I think there is certain amount of deceit involved if the first thing tech support tells you is that this sight was not designed for the beating it takes when mounted on a pistol slide yet Trijjicons website has a picture of the RMR mounted on a semi-auto pistol. When I tried to bring this problem to S&Ws attention their tech support people refused to let me talk to anyone and no help was offered other than to blame Trijjicon.

HELLO S&W AND TRIJJICON.........YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. DOES ANYONE CARE?
 
I just purchases the same gun in .40 probably should have went with the 9mm but I have two other guns in .40. Any one have the 40 and how's the recoil?
 
Well you could side mount it on a ar15 for short range needs or as a primary optic on a shotgun and buy a brand X for your pistol !! After all Ole Jerry M has been using vortex for the last 2 years . Well along with the bucks that went with the change .

To bad your getting a run around but many guys use and like them with no problems but there is one reason I went with the Rm05g is not battery but all of these optics have some problem units get out the door .

Just a little sarcasm back at cha !! hehe . Sorry had to . Good luck
 
hardluk1 said:
Well you could side mount it on a ar15 for short range needs or as a primary optic on a shotgun and buy a brand X for your pistol !! After all Ole Jerry M has been using vortex for the last 2 years . Well along with the bucks that went with the change .

To bad your getting a run around but many guys use and like them with no problems but there is one reason I went with the Rm05g is not battery but all of these optics have some problem units get out the door .

Just a little sarcasm back at cha !! hehe . Sorry had to . Good luck
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I agree in general that Trijjicon stuff is top notch if not the most expensive but it appears they reached too far in selling the RMR as a slide mounted sight for semi-auto pistols. I am surprised that they haven't put out a gag order for the tech support guys telling them to quit admitting that the RMR was not designed for that application. What Trijjicon is in fact doing is selling a sight with a known defect when used in a slide mounted application. Not good for your reputation when you do that.

Sarcasm is good.
 
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14indy said:
I just purchases the same gun in .40 probably should have went with the 9mm but I have two other guns in .40. Any one have the 40 and how's the recoil?
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I have the .40 4.25" barrel Pro CORE. Recoil is fine for me. I think it is slightly better than with my Glock 23, if memory serves me correctly from the last time I shot them together.
 
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I asked Trijicon tech support about Johnds' statements. Here is what I was told:
- The RMR was originally designed for the AR platform to be piggy-backed on an ACOG.
- There is no issue with the M&P CORE.
- They will not machine the housing of the RMR.
- Adding extra battery contacts is not routine, but may happen if the technician determines it is necessary.
 
My RM07 came back a couple of days ago after being gone for 4 weeks. The tag said that they repaired the illumination and replaced the lens. I have no idea why they changed the lens. I will get to try it out at the match this Sunday. The downside is that my buddy who bought the same gun and sight had to send his RM07 in for the same problem a couple of days ago. His lasted 6 weeks or so before crapping out. As far as what Trijiconis is telling customers probably varies depending on which agent you talk to. Bottom line......if you have one of these sights slide mounted on a pistol get ready to send it in.
 
Trijicon added battery contacts for my RM07 8 months ago. Just finished putting another 600 rounds through it with no issues and have it mounted on my M&P 9C.

While it was out for repair I bought another RM07 for my CORE and have not had any issues so far.

MKE
 
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