Good news that the repair seems to work. I don't think I would buy other RM07 knowing that I will probably have to send it in for repair/modification. If I knew then what I know now I would have purchased a different optic. Why does Trijicon continue to sell these sights without fixing its problems or warning about the problem associated with these sights when mounted on pistol slides? Something is wrong with how Trijicon is dealing with this issue IMHO.
M&P Core with Trijjicon RM07 sight
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Good news that the repair seems to work. I don't think I would buy other RM07 knowing that I will probably have to send it in for repair/modification. If I knew then what I know now I would have purchased a different optic. Why does Trijicon continue to sell these sights without fixing its problems or warning about the problem associated with these sights when mounted on pistol slides? Something is wrong with how Trijicon is dealing with this issue IMHO.
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John,
There is not problem with the RMR if mounted on a rifle.
There is no way for Trijicon to know where you are mounting it.
With all of the other red dots (C-More, Burris, Delta Point, etc...)
do we know that they are not having any problems?
Happy with my RM07 for now.
MKE
There is not problem with the RMR if mounted on a rifle.
There is no way for Trijicon to know where you are mounting it.
With all of the other red dots (C-More, Burris, Delta Point, etc...)
do we know that they are not having any problems?
Happy with my RM07 for now.
MKE
John,
There is not problem with the RMR if mounted on a rifle.
There is no way for Trijicon to know where you are mounting it.
With all of the other red dots (C-More, Burris, Delta Point, etc...)
do we know that they are not having any problems?
Happy with my RM07 for now.
MKE
Maybe TIJICON should take the picture of the sight slide mounted on a pistol down from their website? Trijicon is well aware of the problem with the site when slide mounted on a pistol. Just ask their techs. Read the previous posts on this thread.
I sympathize with those folks who have experienced problems with their RM07s (M&P Shields, M&P Bodyguards, lawnmowers, etc., etc., etc.) but for every one of those items that has been problematic there are hundreds (if not thousands) that have performed flawlessly.
I'm sure everyone agrees that in an ideal world no "out of spec" products would ever leave the manufacturing facility.
However, as adults we all know that the world we live in is far from ideal, in the secular realm and certainly much more so in the moral realm.
I've owned scores of S&W firearms and have had less than a handful that have ever had to be returned for service.
Years back my wife bought me a PC1911 as a gift. It had to go back to the factory for a sub-standard trigger.
A few months back I bought a new 4 1/4" M&P 9 C.O. R.E. It had to go back to the factory for a sub-standard trigger.
I then bought a new 4 1/4" M&P 40 PC Ported C.O.R.E. It had to go back to the factory for a sub-standard trigger.
I wanted a MRDS for a specific purpose and after spending many hours looking at them and researching features there was only one that I thought would fit my designs / needs - the Trijicon RM07.
I just put about five hundred rounds through my M&P 40 PC Ported C.O.R.E. with a RM07 this afternoon and it never missed a beat and is still as bright as when I first installed it.
It's something made by fallible mortals and it may fail the next time I use it. If it does I'll have it fixed and go on.
Take care
James
I'm sure everyone agrees that in an ideal world no "out of spec" products would ever leave the manufacturing facility.
However, as adults we all know that the world we live in is far from ideal, in the secular realm and certainly much more so in the moral realm.
I've owned scores of S&W firearms and have had less than a handful that have ever had to be returned for service.
Years back my wife bought me a PC1911 as a gift. It had to go back to the factory for a sub-standard trigger.
A few months back I bought a new 4 1/4" M&P 9 C.O. R.E. It had to go back to the factory for a sub-standard trigger.
I then bought a new 4 1/4" M&P 40 PC Ported C.O.R.E. It had to go back to the factory for a sub-standard trigger.
I wanted a MRDS for a specific purpose and after spending many hours looking at them and researching features there was only one that I thought would fit my designs / needs - the Trijicon RM07.
I just put about five hundred rounds through my M&P 40 PC Ported C.O.R.E. with a RM07 this afternoon and it never missed a beat and is still as bright as when I first installed it.
It's something made by fallible mortals and it may fail the next time I use it. If it does I'll have it fixed and go on.
Take care
James
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I sympathize with those folks who have experienced problems with their RM07s (M&P Shields, M&P Bodyguards, lawnmowers, etc., etc., etc.) but for every one of those items that has been problematic there are hundreds (if not thousands) that have performed flawlessly.
I'm sure everyone agrees that in an ideal world no "out of spec" products would ever leave the manufacturing facility.
However, as adults we all know that the world we live in is far from ideal, in the secular realm and certainly much more so in the moral realm.
I've owned scores of S&W firearms and have had less than a handful that have ever had to be returned for service.
Years back my wife bought me a PC1911 as a gift. It had to go back to the factory for a sub-standard trigger.
A few months back I bought a new 4 1/4" M&P 9 C.O. R.E. It had to go back to the factory for a sub-standard trigger.
I then bought a new 4 1/4" M&P 40 PC Ported C.O.R.E. It had to go back to the factory for a sub-standard trigger.
I wanted a MRDS for a specific purpose and after spending many hours looking at them and researching features there was only one that I thought would fit my designs / needs - the Trijicon RM07.
I just put about five hundred rounds through my M&P 40 PC Ported C.O.R.E. with a RM07 this afternoon and it never missed a beat and is still as bright as when I first installed it.
It's something made by fallible mortals and it may fail the next time I use it. If it does I'll have it fixed and go on.
Take care
James
I believe that nothing is perfect and the last time I bought a barrel of apples I found a couple that were bad and so on so forth. We all know that Trijicon is a premier manufacture but they have crossed the line when they continue to promote the RM07 and other models for use as a slide mounted optic that were not design for that purpose. It is obvious from their failure rate that there is a problem but instead of taking the high road Trijicon has decided to remain mute on the issue and cotinue to quietly repair these optics as they fail instead of fixing the problem. Take comfort that if your sight is one of the many that fails that all you have to do is send it to Trijicon and they will make the modifications to it that it should have left the factory with.....oh ya...and wait 4 weeks for that to happen.
Blessed are the meat eaters.
Is there actually a public failure rate? I have two RM07s (M&P40c and Glock 30sf) and have had no problems with them in about 15 months of weekly range visits. I also have an RM08g (no batteries) on a Glock 19 that has been great, except for shooting from low light into bright light, which was a problem at my range for a while and made me choose the 07s.
Anyway, I'm just curious if there is a public failure rate known for the RM07s or if it is just anecdotal from the people who have had problems.
You would have to get actual numbers from Trijicon but I doubt they would share. Anecdotal evidence is available by searching the major forums that deal with firearms and equipment. Last, what are the chances that when two friends buy the same pistol and optic so they can play in the CO division game at the uspsa that both RM07 sights fail? Mine failed after a few hundred rounds and his failed after 6 weeks and over a thousand rounds. It is obvious that we did not do our due diligence but got sucked into the buying the sights because TRIJICON IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE AND THE BEST so how can we go wrong state of mind. So IMHO it's time for Trijicon to step up and take some credit and fix these optics before letting them out the door or let people know that problems may arise if the optics are slide mounted on a pistol.
Good news. Shot a match on Sunday with the repaired RM07 installed on my m&p core and the sight lasted the whole match. I was curious why Trijicon installed a new lens so I called them and asked. Short story.....they claimed that when they installed the new electronics they had to install a different lens so that the sight could be zeroed correctly. After the call I was under the impression that the electronics were not just a replacement of the original package but rather a new series. I guess that means that if someone was going to buy a new RM07 to be mounted on a pistol slide it would be worth calling to see what serial number that started with. This is all well and good but it probably leaves a lot of RM07s out there with old style electronics that may fail when mounted on pistol slides but on the other hand all those old style optics will work just fine for their original intended application.
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