10mm Smith and Wesson feeding problems FIXED

cigarman454 · Oct 11, 2022

Good video.
If the link doesn't work do a YouTube search for 10mm Smith and Wesson problems FIXED

10mm Smith and Wesson problems FIXED

| VIEWERS solve 2 out of 3 4" & 4.6" M&P 2.0 issues

- YouTube

stansdds · Oct 11, 2022

So you buy a brand new pistol and need to immediately replace the magazine springs and perhaps the recoil spring? Coil springs do take an initial set when loaded, but 1 inch seems like a whole lot for a magazine spring. Makes me wonder if this was a design/development issue or if whichever supplier is making the springs for S&W did not make them to the correct specifications. Either way, it's got to be frustrating too those who bought 4" and 4.6" 10mm M&P pistols and have had problems.

Hawg Rider · Oct 12, 2022

After reading some bad reviews both here on the Forum and online, I did some similar research prior to purchasing my M&P 10mm 2.0 (4.625"). I think the YouTube folks did, with the help of Wolff Springs, correctly identify and fix a couple of problems. My first issue is that they apparently did so without contacting S&W to make them aware of their 10mm pistol's problems. My second issue is that when I purchase what is supposedly a top quality and relatively expensive handgun, I expect performance. If that performance is subpar, then I expect S&W to know about it and to correct it. I don't think that running out and spending even more $ on aftermarket springs is the right approach. I know from reading the comments that S&W Customer Service has not been very accommodating in dealing with some customers' 10mm issues, but they still need to be held accountable. I contacted S&W CS prior to purchasing my 10mm, and they responded that these were not widespread problems and that the issues were being addressed on an individual basis. I decided to proceed with buying my 10mm (manuf. June 2022), and so far I have been extremely happy with it. No F2F or uncommanded magazine drops. Maybe I was lucky and got a good one, or maybe I won't see the problems until I get more rounds downrange. Only time will tell.

cigarman454 · Oct 12, 2022

Mag springs

Hawg Rider said:
After reading some bad reviews both here on the Forum and online, I did some similar research prior to purchasing my M&P 10mm 2.0 (4.625"). I think the YouTube folks did, with the help of Wolff Springs, correctly identify and fix a couple of problems. My first issue is that they apparently did so without contacting S&W to make them aware of their 10mm pistol's problems. My second issue is that when I purchase what is supposedly a top quality and relatively expensive handgun, I expect performance. If that performance is subpar, then I expect S&W to know about it and to correct it. I don't think that running out and spending even more $ on aftermarket springs is the right approach. I know from reading the comments that S&W Customer Service has not been very accommodating in dealing with some customers' 10mm issues, but they still need to be held accountable. I contacted S&W CS prior to purchasing my 10mm, and they responded that these were not widespread problems and that the issues were being addressed on an individual basis. I decided to proceed with buying my 10mm (manuf. June 2022), and so far I have been extremely happy with it. No F2F or uncommanded magazine drops. Maybe I was lucky and got a good one, or maybe I won't see the problems until I get more rounds downrange. Only time will tell.

I agree with you Smith and Wesson should have found this out and fixed the problem. I haven’t had any problems with mine as well but I am going to upgrade my magazine springs.

Hawg Rider · Oct 13, 2022

Obviously that's your choice, and there are great aftermarket springs out there. I noticed that both my brand new 10mm magazines readily accepted all 15 rounds without much effort, so I'm wondering if they will relax too much after a few hundred more rounds. I may be buying some Wolff springs myself!

rosewood · Oct 13, 2022

stansdds said:
So you buy a brand new pistol and need to immediately replace the magazine springs and perhaps the recoil spring? Coil springs do take an initial set when loaded, but 1 inch seems like a whole lot for a magazine spring. Makes me wonder if this was a design/development issue or if whichever supplier is making the springs for S&W did not make them to the correct specifications. Either way, it's got to be frustrating too those who bought 4" and 4.6" 10mm M&P pistols and have had problems.

It is entirely possible that with the initial development and design, there were not any issues. Then when production hit, there was a bad batch of springs or maybe they changed vendors or something along those lines. Maybe the bean counters got involved and forced them to cut corners on the springs. You never know. Then when you try to trouble shoot the problem, you have a hard time figuring it out because you assumed it is the same springs that the testing was done on.

I have car parts for a vehicle go bad shortly after replacing and assumed it was something else because I just replaced that part. You tend to overlook what you believe couldn't be it because it was already taken care of. This could be a similar situation with these malfunctions.

Rosewood

rosewood · Oct 13, 2022

I bought a EAA witness 10mm when they first came out maybe 15+ years ago. I noticed the recoil spring was kind of weak. When you fired it, it felt kind of like a bounce with the slide. Like you could feel it recoil twice for lack of a better description. I finally upgraded to a 22lb spring and then it felt normal. I suspect they installed a 9mm spring or the like in the gun (may have been an engineering oversight, or a production oversight). Would probably have beat my frame up overtime had I not upgraded it.

Rosewood

LVSteve · Oct 13, 2022

Hawg Rider said:
Obviously that's your choice, and there are great aftermarket springs out there. I noticed that both my brand new 10mm magazines readily accepted all 15 rounds without much effort, so I'm wondering if they will relax too much after a few hundred more rounds. I may be buying some Wolff springs myself!

The way most mags are these days, one that is easy to load would raise my suspicions. Ask some of the 380EZ owners how well their easy to load mags are working for them.

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