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What is the going rate for 4506's these days? I am a little late to the 3rd gen party.
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I would say a solid $500-550 for something with 2 mags no box or papers in about 80-90% in the midwest region.
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I'd say more like 600-650. Especially if its clean. +/- for fixed sights and hooked trigger guard/pre mim.
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$500 is sweet deal territory for a nice condition 2 magazine gun. Value approaches $800 with box and accessories. Think of the cost of a new 1911 as a comparison.
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The pistol I'm looking at is 90%, no box or papers with 5 factory mags and 4 aftermarket "hi caps". which I couldn't care less about. It has a square trigger guard and adjustable sights with round type grips.
Actually, you're right. I got $800 for this one, lnib,about 2 years ago. 4506-1 r3 ver 4 or was it rel4 ver 3
Anyways it went quick on an auction site, not the well used one. I think the MIM parts were in demand
Don't really miss it at all.
Pics to come.
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The mags may be a problem cause they will be valued at $20-30 a piece if you want them or not.
I agree that 600-800 is the range. New in box could be higher.
I agree that 600-800 is the range. New in box could be higher.
As you've described it, that gun would be tagged at $599 to $649 in one or two of my local shops. Some no-dash 4506 pistols tagged at $699.00 in the past year did not sell at that price. Perhaps the extra magazines will help but no factory box will likely hurt.
A 4506-1 as you describe would bring around $650 locally. You occasionally can come across a better deal. But those usually dont have a box and have been carried a bit.
With a little Scotchbrite and Flitz they clean up like new. Great 45s!
And unlike a 1911 they go bang everytime. Right out of the box. With no gunsmithing or aftermarket parts needed.
Buy it. You will be glad you did. Regards 18DAI
With a little Scotchbrite and Flitz they clean up like new. Great 45s!
And unlike a 1911 they go bang everytime. Right out of the box. With no gunsmithing or aftermarket parts needed.
Buy it. You will be glad you did. Regards 18DAI
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Thanks folks. All good info thanks to all for bringing me up to speed on these nice pistols. I remember when the first came out and thinking that they were kinda ugly and somewhat pricey (for me at the time). Now not so much. They now seem much more "classic". Who still makes holsters for the early, square guard type?
Stoner Holsters lists the 4506 for several of their IWB models.....his holsters have worked very well for me .. Holsters by Stoner Holsters
I TOO THOUGH THE SAME THING LIKE YOU FRIEND BACK THEN. BUT QUICLY CAME TO REALISE HOW WELL AHEAD OF THEIR TIME THEY WERE! THE TESTAMENT TO THIS IS THAT THEY HAVE STARTED BECOMING COLLECTORS ITEMS ALREADY, WHILE THEY STILL PERFORM THEIR ASSIGNED DUTY WITH SOME POLICE DEPARTMENTS WORLDWIDE!!!! THE ADDED BONUS IS THAT THEY ARE SO OVERBUILT, THAT EVEN AS COLLECTORS ITEMS, THEY CAN STILL BE USED WITHOUT SHOWING WEAR AND TEAR! LOL! AS FOR THE "PRICEY," A "GUNS AND AMMO" CATALOGUE FROM 1991 SHOWS ABOUT EQUAL MSRP AS THE SIG SAUERS AT THE TIME. BETTER VALUE IF YOU ASK ME, IF YOU COMPARE THE MACHINED SMITHS TO THE STAMPED STEEL SIGS.
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OH, AND ME PERSONALY I AM A BIG JUNKIE FOR THE SQUARE TRIGGERGUARDS. I HAVE BOTH, BUT I PREFFER BY A LOT THE SQ.TR. I KINDA SEE THE ROUNDED AS IF IT WAS "COST NEUTERED". HOWEVER, ONE HAS MORE CHOICES IN HOLSTERS WITH THE RND TRIGERRGUARD THAN THE SQ. FOR YEARS I HAVE USED A LEATHER BIANCHI S3 IWB FOR A BERETTA F92, AND HAS WORKED FINE. KEEP IN MIND, LEATHER CAN BE PLIABLE, AND A HOLSTER THAT FITS A SIMILAR SIZE GUN, MAY BE MADE TO FIT.
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So I took 18DAI's advice and made the deal for the 4506. Don't have it in hand yet so no good picks. But now I have even more questions, most concerning magazines. The pistol will come with 5 factory mags. 2 with yellow followers and plastic base plates, 2 with red followers with steel base plates and 1 with a black follower and a steel base plate. Can someone give me a timeline for the use of these? Here is a pic
http://smith-wessonforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=284611&stc=1&d=1495218403
http://smith-wessonforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=284611&stc=1&d=1495218403
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Good thread on the topic here.
Hint: The orange follower magazines are the oldest ones... the yellows replaced them... and the extended magazines are 3rd party, probably Pro-Mags.
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TTSH,
Checked out the post link you provided. Very good info there and I think I have a very basic understanding, but where do the base plates fit into all of this. Are they time, serial or model specifc? I guess what I amm trying to figure out is could any of the factory mags be the ones that came with the pistol? How many mags were shipped with the pistols? The aftermarket mags are not a concern they just were a part of the deal.
Thanks for the reponse and the link.
Checked out the post link you provided. Very good info there and I think I have a very basic understanding, but where do the base plates fit into all of this. Are they time, serial or model specifc? I guess what I amm trying to figure out is could any of the factory mags be the ones that came with the pistol? How many mags were shipped with the pistols? The aftermarket mags are not a concern they just were a part of the deal.
Thanks for the reponse and the link.
I'd need to know your serial number (most of it anyway... to establish the approximate date it left the factory) to answer your question with any real certainty.
My 645 came with two original magazines so I assume that early 4506 stepped-frame models likewise came with two magazines.The infamous 4506 magazine recall occurred in December 1989/January 1990. The yellow follower magazines came out at some point right around or after that recall. But by the time of the recall, S&W was already putting out plastic floorplate magazines for the 4506... no longer metal floorplates except maybe by special order.
So is yours a very early 4506? If so, those metal floorplate magazines could be original with the gun (well, at least one or two of them maybe).
Or was your 4506 manufactured at some point close to or after the recall and the switch to yellow follower magazines? If so, then maybe the two yellow follower magazines were original to the gun.
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ETA: Another good older thread, this one on the 645/745/4506 rubber pad floorplate magazines, is here.
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