100 Yard Shooting [no scope]

I have no illusions. I just want to have fun, and the outdoor range I have access to is 100 yards deep. I'll probably try both the TRS-25 and the scope. Again, just for fun. Thanks for the feedback... :)

Want some more fun... throw some clay pigeons on a 50 yard dirt bank and then use your red dot to take them out. At dusk, use a laser.
 
100 yd shooting, no scope

Aging takes a toll. Back around 1980 on in-law's farm would shoot at empty 5 gal. chemical cans at 265 yds with 8 3/8 model 29. On a good day, sitting on ground leaned up against pickup truck tire rested across the knees could hit one 4 times out of 6. The red bar on the sight aided estimation on how high to hold top of front sight over rear. Today I doubt I could even see the darn can!
 
Can I shoot out to 100 yards with just a red dot, or would a scope be more appropriate?

Most fun I have had is shooting clay targets set up on a sand bank at 105 yards, using open sights, off hand, with my 6 inch 686 Classic Hunter using 38 spl. Long gun not needed.
 
I'm in my early 60's and have a CMMG Mk4 Ht with a 16'' stainless steel barrel and an Aimpoint Patrol Optic red dot sight. I also have Magpul Gen II MBUS flip polymer sights. I had no problem shooting with my red dot out to 100 yds. Groupings were pretty close to 1" MOA, although maybe more like 2" and slightly high and to the right of the bulls eye.

One tip that worked for me was to minimize my red dot and both centering and groupings were better. I was slightly worse with my MagPul flip sights, but not enough to matter.

I think I would be accurate to 150 yards, but after that I need and want an optic.
 
Trained and qualified with the M-14 during Army Basic. Iron sights only... out to a 300 yard target in the prone position, less (can't remember exact distances) in the squatting (difficult) & standing positions. The overwhelming majority of us passed. Couldn't do that today.
Eyesight not what it once was.
If you have good eyesight iron sights may certainly fit the bill.
 
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1 MOA required for any attempt at hitting a small target with accuracy.
Remember at what range your sights are set and be fully aware of the ballistics of the ammunition you're using. 5.56 may well be still climbing at 100 yards. 22 will be dropping.

I practice against 4" clays at 75-100 yards, off hand, so when I shoot IPSC at closer ranges it feels a lot easier... also 8" steel plates at 80-100 yards begin to look large. My green dot is set for 50 yards so need to shoot a fraction higher at 100 to hit the target.
 
Master the iron sites first. Then everything else will be cake. I love reading from all these old heads...****, I'm one of them now....just master the iron first, then go as high tech as you want.
 
I started out with iron sights, went to the Bushnell red dot, and most recently bought a Redfield 2-7X Battlezone from Midway. I enjoy all of them, but the scope is easiest to use. Indoor range only so far.
 
It's all been said, yet..

While a friend was setting the scope on one rifle, I hit the 300yd 4"x6" metal plate on a piano wire on the first shot with just the stock iron sights. He looked at me stunned, yet really, a good rifle should be able to do this if you just relax and pull the trigger the split second you know you're on target.

Awhile later I did a one-day training with the trainers of BlackWater. We were under live fire all day, rifle to pistol, jammed loads, clearing, reloading, fire fire fire, bullets over our heads and next to us, etc, shooting at 8" metal pie plates set up 4' apart x 8 of them, at 20-100yds, plus some standard body forms. We probably shot 10 30-shot mags each. (I agree the 8" start to look huge.)

I was using a borrowed rifle from the squad, a cheap old thing, with a $100 Tasco red dot, no tweaking, no resetting, just "here you go" and off I went.

I knew I was hitting everything I was aiming at, yet couldn't really hear it with all the others wailing away, nor see any sparks very often. End of the day I have a full mag, its dark dusk, they want to quit, and I want to shoot. Finally a woman trainer says she will spot me, and at 70 yards or so I cranked off 28, 29, 30 out of 30 at the pie plates pretty rapid fire changing right to left to right in random order, and that little red dot seemed to glow every time the target was seen. Instant pop, sparks flying.

I learned that day that its truly 'see it and shoot the split second you see it', and that most of the misses come from thinking, waiting, hoping, wishing, and pretending I can't see it, or whatever.

So...100yd, naked eye, or red dot is PLENTY. Add out to 400yds onward, get a scope.
 
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Things to consider in no particular order.

1x red dot advantages are unlimited eye relief and field of view. If you're just shooting at a piece of paper in front of you these advantages aren't of great value.

1x red dot is great for those of us with aging eyes struggling with irons but not wanting magnification. With a 1x red dot all you do is focus down range at the target. Now THAT is a blessing. It makes offhand unsupported shooting a pleasure instead of a struggle. For bench or other supported shooting, might as well use a magnified optic.

Don't get hung up on dot size. You can use a red dot just like the tip of a front sight post. There's no rule saying that the center of the dot must be used. Using the dot's top edge 12 o'clock works well for more precise aiming if the dot would otherwise cover too large of an area for aim. Or.... using the bottom edge 6 o'clock of the dot for a bit of holdover at distance depending on your zero. There's creative ways to use that dot to your advantage.

You mentioned that you just wanted to have fun. Well you picked the right rifle! A 15-22 with a red dot, soda cans, reactive targets of any kind is flat out fun.

Enjoy that rifle.

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Lol thats a great story but again, what rifle were you using? Not a 22 but an AR15.
Different ballgame all together. Yes the mechanics are the same but ballistics arent.
 
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Trained and qualified with the M-14 during Army Basic. Iron sights only... out to a 300 yard target in the prone position, less (can't remember exact distances) in the squatting (difficult) & standing positions. The overwhelming majority of us passed. Couldn't do that today.
Eyesight not what it once was.
If you have good eyesight iron sights may certainly fit the bill.

As a young draftee at Ft. Bragg I enjoyed the M-14 at 300 and 350 yards-kept them rocking-a joy to shoot. Hit 60 in qualifying-that's the lowest score for expert, and one of the fondest memories of "Boots at Bragg!"
 
The hold off would be so far in the future that Buck Rogers would be able to see the vapor trail :D:D:D

I think it would be more like dropping mortar rounds down range, that hold off angle would be about as steep :eek:

Damn good fun watching for fall of shot and then adjusting fire though..... :D

I need to find a bigger field...........................

Rob
 
As a young draftee at Ft. Bragg I enjoyed the M-14 at 300 and 350 yards-kept them rocking-a joy to shoot. Hit 60 in qualifying-that's the lowest score for expert, and one of the fondest memories of "Boots at Bragg!"

If you, like me, fired from the squatting position do you remember the yards to the target?
 
400 yards with 22lr? What would the hold off be... 20 feet? :)

With a 60yd zero I have to dial in about 80MOA (27ft) of drop with my Savage using standard velocity ammo to reach out 400yds.

EGW custom cut a 40MOA base for me. My scope has available over 70MOA of adjustment UP with a 60yd zero and my mildot reticle gives me 18MOA of holdover. So total I've got about 90MOA to work with maxed out. Of course with HV ammo I can reach out even further. Love shooting steel suppressed at 300yds. The delayed ding makes ya grin. :D
 
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Well, my astigmatism made it difficult to group closer than 3" at 50 yards with the TRS-25, so I popped for the Nikon 2-7x32 rimfire scope on Amazon. It just happened to go on sale for $130 the day I ordered.

Thanks for all the comments and insight, but again, I just want to have fun with this rifle. Consider a tight grouping at 100 yards just part of my bucket list.

The scope is aligned, mounted and properly torqued. Now, if it would ever stop raining out here (who says El Nino is a dud?) I could get outside and shoot... :rolleyes:
 
Imo if your wanting to be a sniper at 100yds and hit pop cans, there are better 22s for the job.
Sure its possible but people are never honest about their miss rate!
If you like hitting a pop can per mag.
As said above 3moa gun at best. Add in ammo and wind.
Have at it!
 
Imo if your wanting to be a sniper at 100yds and hit pop cans, there are better 22s for the job.
Sure its possible but people are never honest about their miss rate!
If you like hitting a pop can per mag.
As said above 3moa gun at best. Add in ammo and wind.
Have at it!

I took my dad out to the range for a b'day treat on Saturday, we did a few shooting details at 25 yards then moved out to 100 yards with the last 100 rounds. He was with my Anschutz, i had the 15-22. I had set up 2 tin cans each(filled with water, as the wind would knock them off the target holders) and stuck balloons in the ground with cocktail sticks. My 15-22 took out all 10 balloons in 10 shots and then it took me 7 shots to knock the tin cans, on closer inspection the cans were hit before they were dislodged. only one of the shots missed. My scope is zeroed at 25 yards and there was not much difference in the POA/POI we were losing light fast and trying to hit 4cm exploding targets proved a little more difficult and ate up about 50 rounds. When i went down to check the target..i had a group of about 35 rounds all within a 3 inch zone just a little low of the target. Had we had daylight, i have no doubt i could have hit them.The tin cans at 100 yards with a scope proved no problem for my 15-22.
I was surprised and happy.
 
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