10MM?

[Dew]

1006

I just got a 1006 new in the box... safe queen. It has the adjustable sights. I also got 7 boxes of ammo but all are the 180 at the 40 S&W speed. I've not shot the gun as yet but the single action trigger pull is very crisp. Now to my question. I've been a handloader since 1959 but this is my first 10MM. I would like to know of a light load that will be pleasant to shoot and what bullet weight should I use. Please give me your thoughts. My arms and hands are getting weaker due to age so you understand that I don't like a lot of recoil. I don't shoot full house .44 mag loads any more. If there are any other tips you can give on this model please let me know. What kind of accuracy would it give at 25 yards?

 

[Old Navy]

I shoot a lot of 170g LSWC/HP, but I would have to go dig out my records to be sure of powder type and weight used. Even with the hot hand loads the recoil is not bad, but slide hammering really gets to me even with light loads with my arthritic hands.

My G29 and my big Para PXT 14-45 do not bother my hands for what ever reason. Neither does my Dan Wesson 744 (44 Mag) for that matter. My 357 magnums however does give my hands some problems as do my 22 Ruger automatic's, but the 22 magnum revolvers do just fine.

 

[oldRoger]

I have a 1006, (my wife reminds me that I am no longer a “spring chicken”) I think you will be surprised at the relatively low recoil the 1006 has with full power loads.
If you can hold that heavy thing up, you can shoot it.
The regular commercial loads are light, not true of the Double Tap, and Buffalo Bore loads, but they should not jolt you much. I reload for the 10mm, you can find a load all of the way from mouse gas to romping stomping.

 

[oldRoger]

I have a 1006, (my wife reminds me that I am no longer a “spring chicken”) I think you will be surprised at the relatively low recoil the 1006 has with full power loads.
IMO If you can hold that heavy thing up, you can shoot it.
The regular commercial loads are light, not true of the Double Tap, and Buffalo Bore loads, but they should not jolt you much. I reload for the 10mm, you can find a load all of the way from mouse gas to romping stomping.

 

[7tenz]

Kimber also has 2 options, the Eclipse and the Stainless Target II which are both available in 10 mm. I own a Stainless Target II (one of my favorites) and I can tell you, its a dream to shoot the 10 mm in the 1911 platform. I've never shot a Smith or Glock 10 mm so I can't advise you there, but I can tell you that stainless 1911 made me a believer!!

Another thing I like about my Kimber SS Target II 10mm is the ramped barrel. Those Double Tap 200gr hardcast work really well. Like a 41 mag in a 1911, well, almost.

 

[Sprefix]

Check this out..........

I have an interest in purchasing a 10MM. Which pistol is best? Why? With current ammo prices, is it even worth investing in as I don't want another safe queen. Opinions please. Thanks!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=133271842

 

[Old Navy]

I would recommend a G20 for a first 10mm if you are worried about arthritic hand problems, I can shoot my G29 compact 10mm with ease and no hand pain and it is very accurate. The 29 is probably the most accurate small or compact model handgun made for combat shooting. But that is not to be confused with target ultra small groups. My Para will shoot a smaller group at paper targets from rested or braced slow fire, but when not trying to shoot for small group and just knock steel targets or bowling pins its better then my Para all due to recoil.

I have shot very hot full house 155gr loads in my Glock faster and more accurate then commercial loads in my Para, only down side is the over sized and none fully supported chamber leaves 10 worthless empties on the ground. These were loadings for a 610 revolver and were pushing past anything DT sells.

 

[GF1]

Another vote for the Kimber Target II in 10mm (made in limited run in about 2002). Mine is even better now - had the factory replace the original target sights with the night sights, also had the front strap checkered 30 lpi, replace the rubber stocks w/ factory rosewood. Super fitting, great trigger, superb accuracy, right from the factory. Neither love nor money will get the gun away from me. BTW, I like this gun much better than the Colt Delta Elite that I had about 20 years ago. A stout load of Blue Dot behind a good 180 JHP makes this thing really sing.

I do love this gun, but please don't make me choose between this and my 4" M57 Smith...

 

[GF1]

Also meant to mention, 2400 is another great powder for the 10mm, 180 grain bullets.

 

[7tenz]

Another vote for the Kimber Target II in 10mm (made in limited run in about 2002). Mine is even better now - had the factory replace the original target sights with the night sights, also had the front strap checkered 30 lpi, replace the rubber stocks w/ factory rosewood. Super fitting, great trigger, superb accuracy, right from the factory. Neither love nor money will get the gun away from me. BTW, I like this gun much better than the Colt Delta Elite that I had about 20 years ago. A stout load of Blue Dot behind a good 180 JHP makes this thing really sing.

Not sure what you mean, limited run. The Eclipse 10mm originally was a limited run, but it was so popular that it and the Target II 10mm are now regular production guns. I also had the target nite sights put on my Target II 10mm by my local dealer. I got a set of carbon fiber Crimson Trace laser grips on it, and a 24# Wolff recoil spring. On the downside, it sometimes fails to feed the last round. Other than that, I love my Delta Elites, or anything 10mm for that matter.

 

[Old Navy]

On the downside, it sometimes fails to feed the last round. Other than that, I love my Delta Elites, or anything 10mm for that matter.

You need Wolff springs in those Kimber magazines.

 

[oldRoger]

I have a Kimber Target II in 10mm. I have both Kimber and Cobra Magazines. The Kimber Mags will from time to time FTF the last round. The Cobras always work.
I upgraded the springs and followers in the Kimber Mags to Cobra, It didn’t help and least noticeably.
I have seen complaints posted on the 1911 forums about Kimber Mags in 10mm & 45, I tend to agree.

I put A Springco guide rod system in it, this changes the recoil pattern a bunch, the downside is no light loads, for me not a problem.

 

[GF1]

7tenz, I meant exactly what I wrote - the Kimber Target IIs were a limited run, and I bought one of that bunch. Great to hear they are now a production item. I haven't touched the springs, though am approaching 1500 rounds, so probably should. Feeds just fine, all of them.

I used Crimson Trace grips for several months on an M9 in Iraq a few years ago, lots of practice couldn't get me to focus on the target vice the sights. I hated them (am sure I'm in minority here, but my pistol muscle memory goes back about 35 years). They worked fine, zeroed fine, malfunction was between my ears. Hence, I use night sights only.

 

[7tenz]

I could be wrong, thought the Eclipse was the first, anyway, yea I thought the same thing when I first saw the Target II 10. I decided to get it because I was afraid at the time that production would cease. After I asked CS I realized I could have waited until I saved enough $. The CT grips I got were mis-marked at $250, so it was a trial.

Old Roger, Iggy, Old Navy-I have some Colt mags with Wolff+5%. I should've thought of that before. The loads I was using are Double Tap 200gr, real screamers. I took out the Factory 18lb recoill spring and had a 23 or 24# in it when I fired it. The 180gr DT xtp seemed to work fine. Thanks. I read somethings about oversize firing pin stops.

 

[Sprefix]

My 10MM workhorse

Here are a few pics. of my Commander Bobtail Dan Wesson 10MM. It's a shooter and it is smooth...........200 grain Hardcast at 1200FPS-----180 grain Nosler at 1400FPS-----135 grain nosler at 1750 FPS--Cor-bon Power-Ball 135 grain at 1450FPS. A few things have been changed in the gun to allow these rounds to function properly. It's a great Alaskan 1911 Auto.